What is the value of r given the change in electric potential?

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The problem involves calculating the distance r from a positive point charge based on changes in electric potential. The electric potential is given at two distances, and participants are exploring how to set up the equations to find r.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss using the relationship between electric potential and distance, considering the equation V=(1/4∏ε) q/r. There are attempts to set up equations and ratios to eliminate unknowns, particularly the charge q.

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Some participants have provided guidance on setting up the problem, suggesting that using ratios may simplify the equation. There is acknowledgment of the algebraic challenges faced by the original poster, and others have offered support in verifying the mathematical soundness of their approach.

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There is a mention of having one equation with two unknowns, which adds complexity to the problem. Participants are also reflecting on the need to eliminate constants that are not known.

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The electric potential at a distance r from a positive point charge is 45V. The potential
increases to 50 V when the distance from the charge decreases by 1.5 m. What is the
value of r?

A 1.3m
B 1.5m
C 7.9m
D 15m

Homework Statement



the answer is D

Homework Equations


V=(1/4∏ε) q/r
v proportional to 1/r

The Attempt at a Solution


5=(q/(1/4∏ε))*((1/r-1.5)-(1/r))

How embarrassing I just can’t get my head around this one. Am I setting the equation up correct to solve.
If I have I need desperate help with the algebra.
Thank you
 
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mrcotton said:
The electric potential at a distance r from a positive point charge is 45V. The potential
increases to 50 V when the distance from the charge decreases by 1.5 m. What is the
value of r?

A 1.3m
B 1.5m
C 7.9m
D 15m

Homework Statement



the answer is D

Homework Equations


V=(1/4∏ε) q/r
v proportional to 1/r

The Attempt at a Solution


5=(q/(1/4∏ε))*((1/r-1.5)-(1/r))

How embarrassing I just can’t get my head around this one. Am I setting the equation up correct to solve.
If I have I need desperate help with the algebra.
Thank you
You have one equation and two unknowns.

Taking the ratio [itex]\displaystyle \ \ \frac{V(r)}{V(r-1.5)}\ \[/itex] might be more helpful.

Otherwise, use your equation along with [itex]\displaystyle \ \ V(r)=45=\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon_0\,r}\ \[/itex] then eliminate q & solve for r.
 


You're going to want to get rid of the constants you don't have values for (like the charge value q) so you'll probably want to set it up as a ratio so that they'll cancel out.

EDIT: SammyS got their first!
 


Thank you guys.
I did it like this with your help.
Is this mathematicaly sound.
Thanks
Mr C
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mrcotton said:
Thank you guys.
I did it like this with your help.
Is this mathematically sound.
Thanks
Mr C
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That answer is correct.
 

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