What level of math is needed for a theoretical physics career?

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The discussion centers around the level of mathematics required for a career in theoretical physics. Participants explore the foundational mathematical concepts necessary before advancing to calculus and other higher-level topics, as well as recommendations for resources and study approaches.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the level of mathematics needed and seeks recommendations for books, specifically mentioning "Introduction to Set Theory" by Hrbacek and Jech.
  • Another participant suggests that Prof Gerard T'Hooft's website and ZapperZ's article provide useful roadmaps for aspiring theoretical physicists.
  • A different participant advises focusing on gaining intuition through applied and theoretical coursework before tackling rigorous proof-based mathematics, emphasizing the importance of understanding symbols and ideas in context.
  • One participant inquires about the grade level of the original poster to assess their current mathematical background and suggests reviewing the math requirements of physics programs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specific level of math required, as opinions vary on the approach to learning mathematics and the resources to use. Multiple perspectives on the importance of intuition versus rigorous study are presented.

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Some participants mention the need for foundational knowledge in sets, relations, functions, and continuity before progressing to calculus, but do not specify the exact prerequisites or dependencies on individual learning paths.

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This discussion may be useful for students considering a career in theoretical physics, educators advising students on mathematics preparation, and individuals interested in the intersection of mathematics and physics.

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I want to become a theoretical physicist. I was wondering the LEVEL of maths i will need to do. For example i downloaded a book for sets "INTRODUCTION TO SET THEORY" BY HRBACEK, JECH. It has got a lot about sets. But when i look into another book it has limited concepts. So i don't have any idea how much math i need to do. and please recommend some books. before doing calculus i need to know about sets, relations, functions and conituity. so please recommend some books. It's like i want to completely study both mathematics and physics.
 
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Hey Gurasees.

I would suggest you do what most do in mathematics courses and those who make heavy use of it.

Get the intuition for mathematics by doing applied coursework and theoretical coursework without the graduate style approach to mathematics first.

Once you get the intuition for what the symbols mean and what the ideas represent, then move towards a book with proofs and theorems.

If you don't have the necessary intuition to know the ideas and the symbols in context then a proof book will just go way over your head.

Focus on the physics courses to give you the applied intuition and focus on the mathematics courses in the order that they are recommended to get the theoretical ideas and the rigorous approach to mathematics.

The subject that deals with the things you are talking about in upper undergraduate or graduate studies is known as analysis which is the rigorous approach to studying and proving things related to calculus - but in precise and general ways.

Take it one step at a time - but always think about what you are studying and get the intuition for what the symbols and ideas really represent because you won't be able to look at the higher level stuff without this intuition.
 
@Gurasees,

In what grade are you in? If you're already majoring in Physics, you should have the required math classses for now. If not, I'd take a look at a Physics program and see what kind of math they learn...
 

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