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What physically happens to the object as it increases in mass (when its velocity increases). Where does the matter come from that allows it's mass to increase?
The discussion focuses on the concept of mass as it relates to velocity and the observer's frame of reference. It clarifies that an object's mass does not increase in the traditional sense when its velocity increases; rather, the perceived mass changes depending on the observer's speed. The terms "relativistic mass" and "rest mass" are defined, with a consensus that modern physics favors the use of "rest mass" as a more useful concept. The discussion emphasizes that the increase in mass should be understood as an increase in kinetic energy rather than an actual addition of matter.
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jtbell said:An object doesn't "add matter" (by the usual definition of "matter") when its velocity increases.
Consider that an object's speed relative to you can increase because you accelerate. Why should the amount of matter in an object (which from its own point of view is just sitting there minding its own business) increase when you start moving?
Einstein's famous equation E = mc^2 tells us that mass is a form of energy. A moving body has energy due to its rest mass, and more kinetic energy due to its motion relative to the observer. There is a group of people who like to take this total energy (rest-mass-energy + kinetic-energy) and convert it back to mass and call it "relativistic mass". In fact this group will usually say just "mass" when they mean "relativistic mass". There is another group of people, which seems to include the vast majority of modern professional physicists, who don't like to do that; they prefer to leave the energy as energy, and whenever they say "mass" they mean "rest mass" (also known as "invariant mass").mr-tom said:So it's mass is always the same from the objects 'point of view' and only changes to an observer? Could somebody explain why this is (in non layman terms)