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What physically happens to the object as it increases in mass (when its velocity increases). Where does the matter come from that allows it's mass to increase?
The discussion centers on the physical implications of an object's mass as it increases in velocity, particularly in the context of relativity. Participants explore concepts related to relativistic mass, invariant mass, and the relationship between an object's motion and its perceived mass from different reference frames.
Participants express differing views on the utility of the concept of relativistic mass and the interpretation of mass in the context of relativity. There is no consensus on whether relativistic mass should be considered a valid concept or if it is better to focus solely on invariant mass.
There are unresolved nuances regarding the definitions of mass and energy in the context of relativity, as well as the implications of different conventions used in literature.
jtbell said:An object doesn't "add matter" (by the usual definition of "matter") when its velocity increases.
Consider that an object's speed relative to you can increase because you accelerate. Why should the amount of matter in an object (which from its own point of view is just sitting there minding its own business) increase when you start moving?
Einstein's famous equation E = mc^2 tells us that mass is a form of energy. A moving body has energy due to its rest mass, and more kinetic energy due to its motion relative to the observer. There is a group of people who like to take this total energy (rest-mass-energy + kinetic-energy) and convert it back to mass and call it "relativistic mass". In fact this group will usually say just "mass" when they mean "relativistic mass". There is another group of people, which seems to include the vast majority of modern professional physicists, who don't like to do that; they prefer to leave the energy as energy, and whenever they say "mass" they mean "rest mass" (also known as "invariant mass").mr-tom said:So it's mass is always the same from the objects 'point of view' and only changes to an observer? Could somebody explain why this is (in non layman terms)