What potential difference actually means

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of potential difference in electrical circuits, exploring its implications for energy transfer and current flow. Participants examine whether potential difference solely indicates energy per unit charge or if it also plays a role in facilitating current flow, with references to practical examples such as capacitors and resistors.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that potential difference indicates the energy required to move a unit charge between two points.
  • Others argue that potential difference is also related to the force experienced by a unit test charge.
  • A participant notes that potential difference alone does not cause current to flow, using the example of a charged capacitor where potential difference exists without current.
  • One participant expresses confusion over the concept of Joules per Coulomb as potential difference, suggesting that practical considerations in circuits may complicate understanding.
  • Another participant mentions the influence of the Water Flow Model on students' comprehension of electrical concepts, implying it may lead to misconceptions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the role of potential difference in current flow, with multiple competing views presented regarding its implications and interpretations.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on definitions of potential difference and the varying interpretations of its role in circuits, particularly in relation to practical examples like capacitors and resistors.

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Does potential difference only indicate how much energy each coulomb have, or make current flow, or do both?
 
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A potential difference is a measure for the amount of energy it takes (or yields) to move a unit charge from the one place to the other.

A potential difference (actually, the derivative of a potential) is a measure for the force a unit test charge experiences.

Current is (net) motion of charge.
 
BvU said:
A potential difference (actually, the derivative of a potential) is a measure for the force a unit test charge experiences.

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franjo said:
Does potential difference only indicate how much energy each coulomb have, or make current flow, or do both?
Potential difference, by itself, does not make current flow. Consider a charged capacitor, there is a potential difference but no current.
 
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I never understand why "Joules per Coulomb is Potential Difference" gives people so much difficulty.
Perhaps it's something to do with the fact that people look at an electric circuit and they seem more concerned with how the charges flow through the wires in a simple, ideal circuit than what goes on in the resistor or the battery. Wires, in practice, are chosen to be fat enough and short enough that very few Joules are dissipated for every Coulomb that passes through them. (That ensures that nearly all the Energy gets from the source to the load.) In an electric toaster, the element wires are specially chosen to have a much higher resistance than the supply leads so the Potential Difference across the actual element is very nearly the whole supply Volts.
I could blame that danged Water Flow Model which doesn't help in the slightest to help the student in that respect.
 

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