What sort of degree is best for working on propulsion systems?

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The discussion revolves around the best academic path for working on propulsion systems, particularly comparing aerospace engineering and engineering physics. Participants explore the relevance of different educational backgrounds to the field of propulsion, including the implications for future employment and practical experience.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the focus on liquid rockets in aerospace engineering and questions whether engineering physics might provide a better foundation for innovative propulsion technologies.
  • Another participant outlines the various aspects of propulsion systems, emphasizing the importance of chemistry, design, and collaboration among different engineering disciplines, suggesting that multiple engineering backgrounds can contribute to propulsion system design.
  • A different viewpoint stresses the importance of practical experience and skills, advocating for aerospace engineering due to its comprehensive coverage of fluid mechanics and suggesting internships as a means to gain relevant experience.
  • One participant notes that pursuing cutting-edge work in propulsion may require a graduate degree or significant industry experience, indicating a potential barrier for entry into research and development roles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether aerospace engineering or engineering physics is the superior choice for working on propulsion systems. Multiple competing views exist regarding the relevance and applicability of each degree.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the importance of practical experience and specific skills, but there is no agreement on the best educational path or the implications of degree choice for future employment in propulsion systems.

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Hello

I am currently an aerospace engineer at university and was beginning to wonder whether it was the best idea to be an AE engineer. The curriculum involves courses on propulsion systems and the different methods as well as other courses about the actual structure of aircraft and spacecraft , but a lot of what the propulsion course lectures on is liquid rockets.

Seeing as how I'm really interested in physics and how the liquid rocket is generally a very inefficient method for going into space, do you think that I might be better off majoring in engineering physics? I want to be a part of a group of people working on developing both new and better technology that is almost ahead of its time. The idea of rockets is awesome, but it's also quite barbaric and very expensive.

The engineering physics course I'm looking at obviously doesn't have a course on propulsion, but it has a more general course ranging from the study of electrical systems and applications as well as labs and classes teaching abstract physics concepts and the applications of such concepts like quantum mechanics and such

That being said do you think that if I wanted to work on propulsion systems it would be safer to try and just major in aerospace engineering? Or should I do the engineering physics route? Do employers with similar ambitions have bias towards one or the other?
 
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Propulsion systems generally have to do with the chemistry of the fuel (air/fuel mixture, or solid fuel energy density/burn rate, etc), the geometry of the combustion chamber/nozzle, the design of the auxilliary components (cooling, fuel feed, etc), the design of the control systems (if any).

Typically an engineer will design these things, regardless of the type. Though they may like to have a chemist look into the fuel selection. AE, ME, EE, CS would all work together to design a propulsion system. In industry, there are avenues for getting involved with combustion systems from all of these fields.

I personally don't know what a person with an engineering physics degree actually does, so I can't help you there. An AE would probably model the nozzle and do a thermal analysis, they'd probably also work with designers in coming up with the nozzle shape (as well as the ME's for any throttling capabilities).
 
If you're going into something that specific, the thing you want is practical experience and skills. For the theory background, AE is a good major for that because of all of the fluid mechanics you'll learn and if you get some tech electives, take some more related to your interests.

One big thing is to find out where you'd like to work and try to get an internship there. You might try places like JPL or Sandia National Labs. Along with learning about what they do there, you'll learn to network with people and learn job-specific skills that will be a plus when you finish with school and want a job.
 
And if you want to work on the bleeding edge, you'll either need a graduate degree or several years of experience in industry in order to get into research and development.
 

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