What Values of R Yield Multiple Solutions to 2^P-3^Q = R?

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The discussion revolves around determining the values of R that yield multiple solutions to the equations 2^P - 3^Q = R, where P, Q, and R are positive integers, and a variant where R is a negative integer. The scope includes theoretical exploration and mathematical reasoning related to number theory and potentially elliptic curves.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that any integer values for P and Q will yield an integer R, noting that if R is positive, P must be greater than Q.
  • Others argue that there is no bound on P and Q, suggesting that R can take on an infinite number of values.
  • A participant provides an example where R = 5 generates multiple pairs (P, Q), indicating a method to find such R values.
  • Another participant suggests that the problem may relate to elliptic curves and the search for rational points on these curves.
  • It is noted that R must be an odd number for the equations to hold.
  • A later reply presents specific values of R (e.g., R = 13) and discusses conditions under which multiple solutions exist, including the relationship between P and Q.
  • One participant mentions that the differences in R for higher values of P and Q are quantized, suggesting a structured approach to finding solutions.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the nature of R and its relationship to P and Q, with no consensus reached on the overall approach or specific values of R that yield multiple solutions. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views presented.

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Participants highlight the complexity of the problem, including the need for knowledge in number theory and the potential implications of elliptic curves. There are also references to specific mathematical properties and relationships that remain unproven.

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(A) Determine all possible values of R that yields multiple solutions to the equation:

2^P – 3^Q = R; where P, Q and R are all positive integers.

(B) Determine all possible values of R that yields multiple solutions to the equation:

2^P – 3^Q = R; where P, Q are positive integers, but R is a negative integer.
 
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I'm confused. Is this homework and you're asking for help? If so, what have you tried doing?

If not, this looks very interesting. Either way, I'll have to try it some time soon! If you're posting the answer, please but a "spoiler ahead" sign to notify other readers!
 
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Any integer value for P and Q will give an integer R. Now if R is positive, we at least now that P > Q. However since there's now bound on both P and Q, R doesn't have any bound either. This means that there's infinite number of solutions for R. Same concept with negative R.

Edit: Rereading the question, I figured out why it wasen't as innocent as I firstly thought :p. This is indeed a interesting problem, I doubt you can solve it without knowledge in number theory.
 
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On Today 09:38 AM; Sane wrote:

I'm confused. Is this homework and you're asking for help? If so, what have you tried doing?

I apologise for any instance of ambiguity arising out of the choice of the texts comprising the original post.

The problem under reference, at the outset requires one to determine a given R which will yield more than one pair (P,Q). Then, the problem requires one to find all possible values of R with this property.

For, example in (A); 2^3 - 3 = 2^5-3^3 = 5; so R =5 generates more than one pair (P,Q) satisfying conditions of the problem. Problem (A) then requires one to find all possible values R, each of which generates more than one pair (P,Q).

Accordingly, I am looking for an analytic method to determine all possible value of R for each of (A) and (B).
 
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I think that this is a problem related to elliptic curves. there are problems in which u have to find rational points on the curves. However i do not know the technique, :(
 
Ok,one thing is certain R is an odd number.
 
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R=13= 2^8-3^5 = 2^4-3^1 (Which I wish Sengupta had posted as an example too…)

For 2^P-3^Q > 0 there exist: (I.) for a value of P a maximum value of Q, and/or for a value of Q a minimum value of P. [as already stated by Werg22] P>Q/log3(2)

For a value of R with multiple solutions, one of those solutions must satisfy (I.)
The other solutions will have lower values of P and Q.

Something of a proof: R(P,Q) for the values defined in (I.) increases exponentially; from a point R(P,Q) (a.) an increase in P will increase R, (b.) Q can not be increased alone, (c.) an increase in Q necessitates an increase in P in proportion to (I.) which would increase R ~ For solutions satisfying (I.) to have another solution for R it must have lower P, and Q.

R2(P,Q)-R1(P,Q) = {6,18,54,162,486,1458,4374,…} for ‘higher’ values of P and Q (ie the differences in R are quantized 6*3^N)

Doing the math in base2… R=1P0s – 11^Q since the Qterm is odd it must have one fewer binary digits than P to satisfy (I.) therefore for a solution satisfying (I.) R is 1 plus the inverse of the bits of 3^Q. The second P is the number of digits in R, and 3^secondQ is the bits after the first zero in 3^Q.

It may be that there are only two solutions to this problem. I do not believe I have proved many if any of the statements above yet.

Reference:
[1/Log3(2)=~1.585]
[3^1=11]
[3^2=1001]
[3^3=11011]
[3^4=1010001]
[3^5=11110011]
 

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