What's a thorough QM book besides Dirac?

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The discussion centers around recommendations for quantum mechanics (QM) textbooks that provide thorough treatment of the formalism, particularly as alternatives to Dirac's work. Participants share their experiences with various texts and express their preferences based on rigor, clarity, and mathematical depth.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant finds Griffiths' QM text lacking in rigor and seeks a more thorough reference, specifically mentioning the challenges with Dirac's notation.
  • Another participant suggests Ballentine as a graduate-level text, noting it may not meet mathematician standards of rigor but is better than Griffiths.
  • A different participant recommends "Lectures on quantum theory: Mathematical and structural foundations" by Chris Isham for a deeper understanding of the theory, alongside Axler's book on linear algebra for mathematical foundations.
  • Messiah is mentioned as a classic text that could provide additional mathematical details for those who have covered the basics.
  • Sakurai is also suggested as a graduate text that covers the formalism thoroughly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of opinions on the suitability of different QM texts, indicating that there is no consensus on a single best option. Multiple competing views on the rigor and clarity of the suggested books remain present.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the definition of "rigorous" can vary, and the recommendations depend on individual preferences for mathematical depth and clarity in presentation.

Who May Find This Useful

Students and educators in physics, particularly those seeking comprehensive resources for quantum mechanics beyond introductory texts.

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Hi, PF. I've got a question for you. Maybe this would be better posted in the science education or discussion sections, but it's directly related to QM. I'm just finishing up my undergrad coursework and I've taken QM using Griffiths. It's an okay book, but it does a bit of jumping around, and it's not fully rigorous mathematically as far as building up the formalism goes. I'm trying to latex my notes from the quarter in a way that's very thorough and I've been using Dirac to fill in all the gaps left by Griffiths. However, Dirac uses notation that I find strange and unnatural at times. Maybe some of it is just a touch outdated? (Bra-ket is not the problem. I'm totally fine with that.) Although very thorough, Dirac's writing can also be kind of clunky at times.

Q: I was wondering if anyone knows of another QM book that presents the formalism as thoroughly as Dirac, so I have a second reference to crosscheck and reinforce my understanding.
 
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Try Ballentine -- it's intended as a graduate text.
(Depends what you mean by "rigorous", of course. Ballentine is not rigorous by mathematician standards, but probably better that Griffiths, imho.)

P.S., I know what you mean about Dirac -- his writings contain a wealth of insights that can be difficult to obtain elsewhere, but it can also be a struggle to extract that wealth... :-(
 
Thanks for the tip! I actually suspected it might be a graduate level text I was looking for.
 
I know Ballentine is good. Zettili gets very good reviews, but I haven't read it. For people who want to understand the theory better, rather than learn how to calculate stuff, I always recommend "Lectures on quantum theory: Mathematical and structural foundations" by Chris Isham. To understand the math better, you should start with Axler's book on linear algebra. To understand it really well, you would have to study analysis, topology, integration theory and lots of functional analysis.
 
I suggest Sakurai, a graduate text that covers the formalism pretty thoroughly.
 
Thanks. I ended up grabbing Messiah at the library. It was actually really helpful.
 

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