What's the advantage of using a voltage buffer amplifier?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the advantages of using a voltage buffer amplifier, specifically a voltage follower. Participants explore its role in signal buffering, impedance matching, and circuit isolation, with examples related to high impedance sources like crystal oscillators.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a voltage follower buffers the signal and helps change impedance, allowing a high impedance source to drive multiple loads without affecting the source.
  • Others argue that isolating the input circuit from the output circuit prevents one circuit from affecting another, which is particularly beneficial in maintaining the stability of oscillators.
  • A participant illustrates the concept of power transfer by discussing the relationship between source resistance and load resistance, suggesting that a buffer amplifier can optimize this transfer.
  • Some participants emphasize that directly connecting an amplifier to an oscillator without buffering can lead to instability in the oscillator's output frequency and power.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the benefits of using a voltage follower for buffering and impedance matching, but the discussion includes various examples and explanations without reaching a consensus on all aspects of its application.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about circuit configurations and the specific conditions under which the advantages of using a voltage follower apply. The discussion does not resolve all mathematical or technical details related to power transfer and impedance matching.

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i want to understand what's the advantage of using a voltage follower
 
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A voltage follower is used to buffer the signal. It is helpful for changing impedance, too.

For example if you have a high impedance source that you cannot load, maybe a crystal oscillator, you can use the voltage follower to then distribute the signal to multiple loads, or maybe an amplifier that has a lower input impedance like a BJT.
 
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RonzRknob said:
i want to understand what's the advantage of using a voltage follower

Voltux said:
A voltage follower is used to buffer the signal. It is helpful for changing impedance, too.

For example if you have a high impedance source that you cannot load, maybe a crystal oscillator, you can use the voltage follower to then distribute the signal to multiple loads, or maybe an amplifier that has a lower input impedance like a BJT.
great answer, Voltux :smile:

@RonzRknob, a buffer, usually (but not always) has a gain of 1 ( unity gain) and is a great way to stop one circuit from affecting another

Using an op-amp in this configuration is a very popular practice eg …..
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The sole purpose of a buffer circuit is to isolate the input circuit from the output circuit


Dave
 

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@davenn , can you further explain me why isolating the input circuit from the output circuit is beneficial?
 
Imagine a source which has a series resistance of Rs and a load with resistance Rl. Try calculating how the power dissipated in the load changes as Rl changes. If Rl = 0 then there would be no voltage across it so the Power I*V would be zero. If RL was infinite there would be no current so again the power dissipated in the load would be zero. It so happens that the power is a maximum when Rl = Rs.

But what if they are fixed and RL <> Rs?

Inserting a buffer amplifier between the two allows you to change the impedance driving the load and maximise power transfer. This is what others mean by changing the impedance.
 
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RonzRknob said:
@davenn , can you further explain me why isolating the input circuit from the output circuit is beneficial?

I did answer that in post #3 as did @Voltux in post #2

His example of an oscillator circuit being affected ( loaded down) by the circuit placed on the output of the oscillator is an idea solution.
The circuit following the oscillator may be an amplifier stage, but just directly connection that amplifier to the output of the oscillator without any buffering isolation can cause the oscillator or function incorrectly, commonly by causing it to change it output frequency and or power output.
By putting a unity gain buffer stage in there between the oscillator and the amplifier, stops the amplifier stage from affecting the oscillators output. Thus the oscillator remains stable and its output doesn't frequency/power wobble all over the place.
 
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Imagine a source which has a series resistance of Rs and a load with resistance Rl. Try calculating how the power dissipated in the load changes as Rl changes. If Rl = 0 then there would be no voltage across it so the Power I*V would be zero. If RL was infinite there would be no current so again the power dissipated in the load would be zero. It so happens that the power is a maximum when Rl = Rs.

But what if they are fixed and RL <> Rs?

Inserting a buffer amplifier between the two allows you to change the impedance driving the load and maximise power transfer. This is what others mean by changing the impedance.
Thank you , that was helpful
 
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davenn said:
I did answer that in post #3 as did @Voltux in post #2

His example of an oscillator circuit being affected ( loaded down) by the circuit placed on the output of the oscillator is an idea solution.
The circuit following the oscillator may be an amplifier stage, but just directly connection that amplifier to the output of the oscillator without any buffering isolation can cause the oscillator or function incorrectly, commonly by causing it to change it output frequency and or power output.
By putting a unity gain buffer stage in there between the oscillator and the amplifier, stops the amplifier stage from affecting the oscillators output. Thus the oscillator remains stable and its output doesn't frequency/power wobble all over the place.
Thanks Dave , I can now see it through
 
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