What's the electrical power (physically)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of electrical power, specifically what generates it and how it manifests in electrical systems. Participants explore concepts related to voltage, current, and the conversion of energy in various contexts, including theoretical and practical applications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the fundamental reason behind the generation of electrical power, seeking clarity on its emergence from voltage and current.
  • Another participant describes the behavior of charges, noting that same charges repel and opposite charges attract, which leads to current flow when a conducting connection is present.
  • A participant draws an analogy between voltage and elevation, suggesting that electrons move from higher to lower potential, converting potential energy into kinetic energy, which can then perform work.
  • One explanation involves mechanical work, such as water falling over a dam, being converted into electrical energy that powers devices like motors.
  • A participant discusses the role of electric potential and how charges move from lower to higher potential due to external emf, emphasizing that power resides in the individual charges and can be influenced by mechanical or chemical means.
  • Another participant mentions the conversion of energy in circuit elements, highlighting how resistors convert electrical energy to heat and capacitors store energy in their electric fields.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the generation and nature of electrical power, with no consensus reached on a singular explanation. Multiple competing ideas and models are presented, reflecting differing understandings of the underlying physics.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions may depend on specific definitions of terms like "power" and "energy," and there are unresolved aspects regarding the mechanisms of energy conversion in electrical systems.

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I have a question to depth understanding electricity

what's the thing that make electrical power appear?

I mean that when generating electrical power
We generate emf (voltage)
and if the circuit was closed we get current !

HOW THEN ELECTRICAL POWER APPEARD AS AN IMPORTANT PARAMETER
 
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Same charges repel each other, opposite charges attract each other. If you have different charge densities in different places, charges "try" to reach the other side (but need some conducting connection to do so).
This is a very simple (and slightly inaccurate) description how you can get current flows.

Look in a textbook for a proper introduction.
 
I'm asking about what make "POWER" generated?? and how?
I know
we generate current and voltage and power = VI

I'm asking what's the power reason for appear
 
Voltage is roughly analogous to elevation. Electrons will "fall" toward the higher positive voltage, converting potential energy to kinetic energy. This kinetic energy can be harnessed to light up a light bulb or something. When these electrons move through a wire, they collide with each other and the wire and cause the wire to heat up.
 
One way is this: work of some sort is done --- water falling over a dam for example --- and is converted into electrical energy, which is sent over wires, and then causes motion in electrical motors which can do work (expending power).
 
klm: that's a good question...not so easy to answer without some understanding of basic physics...like electric potential...Check Wikipedia if you'd like more on that.

In SOURCES of electric power, charges are forced to move by an external emf from a lower to a higher potential and power [really energy] therefore resides in the individual charges. This can be accomplished via mechanical or chemcial means [generators or batteries respectively].

In LOADS, like light bulbs or electric motors in a refrigerator, the charges move from the higher potential to a lower potential and some of the original energy is recovered...some has already been lost via transmission losses. Energy in electronic elements

Some elements in a circuit can convert energy from one form to another. For example, a resistor converts electrical energy to heat, this is known as the Joule effect. A capacitor stores it in its electric field. The total electric potential energy stored in a capacitor is given by 1/2C V2where C is the capacitance, V is the electric potential difference...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_potential_energy#Energy_in_electronic_elements
 

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