What's the most complicated circuit you know?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around identifying and exploring the most complicated circuits known to participants, focusing on those that cannot be easily broken down into simpler, independent blocks. The conversation includes various types of circuits, their characteristics, and the criteria for complexity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests the cubic-function generator by Cipriani and Takeshian as a complicated circuit, emphasizing its indivisibility into simpler blocks.
  • Another participant mentions the self-saturating magnetic amplifier, indicating its complexity and historical significance.
  • Some participants express curiosity about how to measure the complexity of a circuit, suggesting that criteria may vary among individuals.
  • Discussion includes chaotic circuits, with one participant noting that circuits displaying chaotic behavior are beyond deterministic modeling and can only be numerically simulated.
  • Another participant brings up the 10 Transistor SRAM cell as a complex circuit, while also suggesting that a damaged bipolar transistor common emitter amplifier could exhibit chaotic behavior.
  • References to bandgap reference circuits and their complexity are made, with one participant sharing links for further exploration.
  • Historical anecdotes about the regenerative receiver and E. H. Armstrong highlight the subtlety and ingenuity of certain circuits.
  • Some participants discuss the potential applications of chaotic circuits, including encryption, where chaotic behavior can be utilized for signal recovery.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of opinions on what constitutes a complicated circuit, with no consensus on a single example. The discussion remains open-ended, with multiple competing views and criteria for complexity.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the nonlinearity of certain circuits, particularly magnetic amplifiers, which complicates precise mathematical analysis. The discussion also touches on the historical context of some circuits and their evolving applications.

  • #31
Kholdstare said:
Does not function as a single irreducible block. :cool:

When you say it's not irreducible, could you not just say it is built with a high level of redundancy and fault tolerance? Could it not be looked upon as an entity?

jim hardy said:
""I might suggest the Internet?""

wait'll it becomes sentient. we'll need a whole new field of psychology.

Isn't is 'sentient" already (with the help of all its acolites)?
 
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Isn't is 'sentient" already (with the help of all its acolites)?

now that you ask, it does seem so. Milton's Beezlebub ?
 
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