When Does a Projectile's Horizontal Velocity Double Its Vertical Velocity?

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The discussion revolves around determining when a projectile's horizontal velocity is twice its vertical velocity after being launched at 20 m/s at a 53-degree angle. The initial horizontal velocity is calculated as 16 m/s, while the vertical velocity changes due to gravity. The first solution finds that this condition is met at 1 second, but the textbook also provides a second solution at 2.2 seconds. The need to consider the projectile's return path and maximum height is emphasized, as it creates a second instance where the horizontal velocity can equal twice the vertical velocity. The symmetry of projectile motion is acknowledged as a key factor in finding both time values.
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Homework Statement


There is a projectile which is launched at point "o" and land at "B".It was thrown with 20m/s with angle of 53 degree.Take g=10 m/s^2 sin theta=0.8 and cos theta=0.6
Find the time at which magnitude of x component of velocity of projectile is twice the magnitude of y component of velocity.
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Homework Equations


v sub x =u sub x +a sub x t
u sub x=initial velocity in x-direction i.e u cos theta =16 m/s
v sub x =velocity in x direction at time t.
v sub y =velocity in y direction at time t
v sub y =u sin theta +(- 10 t)

The Attempt at a Solution


v sub x=2 (u sin theta +(- 10 t)
but v sub x=u cos theta (as acceleration in x i.e horizontal direction is zero.
so,u cos theta =2 (u sin theta - 10 t)
putting given values give
t=1 sec.
But in book two answer are given
t=1 sec
and t=2.2 sec.
How I can get t=2.2 s ?


 
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Actually there would be two cases when horizontal velocity would be 2 times of vertical velocity as shown in your attempt.
Consider the case when projectile reaches highest point, calculate the time for it.
Then see the additional time where once again the horizontal vel. would be equal to 2 times the ver. Vel.
 
You have to look at the return path, so try the negative.
 
gracy said:

Homework Statement


There is a projectile which is launched at point "o" and land at "B".It was thrown with 20m/s with angle of 53 degree.Take g=10 m/s^2 sin theta=0.8 and cos theta=0.6
Find the time at which magnitude of x component of velocity of projectile is twice the magnitude of y component of velocity.
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Homework Equations


v sub x =u sub x +a sub x t
u sub x=initial velocity in x-direction i.e u cos theta =16 m/s
v sub x =velocity in x direction at time t.
v sub y =velocity in y direction at time t
v sub y =u sin theta +(- 10 t)

The Attempt at a Solution


v sub x=2 (u sin theta +(- 10 t)
but v sub x=u cos theta (as acceleration in x i.e horizontal direction is zero.
so,u cos theta =2 (u sin theta - 10 t)
putting given values give
t=1 sec.
But in book two answer are given
t=1 sec
and t=2.2 sec.
How I can get t=2.2 s ?

Find out how much time it takes for the ball to reach the top of the parabola and start falling back to earth.

In your equation:

vx = 2[u sin (θ) ± 10t],

you picked the negative sign and worked out t. What if you then picked the positive sign and solved this equation? What value of t would you get then?
 
SteamKing said:
What if you then picked the positive sign
Why?acceleration due to gravity is always pointing downward and I have chosen downward direction to be negative.
 
gracy said:
Why?acceleration due to gravity is always pointing downward and I have chosen downward direction to be negative.
Well, then why did you write the equation with ± ? o_O

The first comment still applies. After the ball reaches its maximum height and starts falling again, there will be another point where the horizontal velocity is twice the verical velocity. :wink:
 
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SteamKing said:
Well, then why did you write the equation with ± ?
No.I have not.I was just intended to write v=u+at as a is negative,it became v=u +(-a)t
 
SteamKing said:
The first comment still applies. After the ball reaches its maximum height and starts falling again, there will be another point where the horizontal velocity is twice the verical velocity.
I got your point.As there is symmetry ,there will be another point where the horizontal velocity is twice the vertical velocity.Thanks .:smile:
 

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