Where Can I Find an Astable Linear Solenoid for My Robotics Experiment?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding an astable linear solenoid for a robotics experiment, with participants exploring various solutions and alternatives related to mechanical motion and circuitry. The scope includes practical applications, circuit design, and alternative mechanisms for achieving similar results.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a need for a linear solenoid actuator for a robotics project, indicating a desire to avoid complex circuitry if possible.
  • Another participant suggests an alternative solution using a motor and crank mechanism to achieve continuous motion, highlighting the availability of ready-made components for robotics.
  • A different approach is proposed involving the use of a time delay relay to create an astable solenoid, with considerations for the magnetic properties of the core affecting switching speed.
  • Participants discuss the potential application of the solenoid, questioning whether it is intended for continuous flow or as a plunger mechanism, and suggest considering electric micro pumps as an alternative.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on how to achieve the desired mechanical motion, with no consensus on the best approach or solution. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal method for the project.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of expertise in circuitry, which may influence their proposed solutions. There are also unresolved questions about the specific requirements for the solenoid's operation, such as the desired on/off periods.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in robotics, mechanical engineering, or DIY electronics may find the discussion relevant, particularly those exploring actuator options and circuit design for practical applications.

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I enjoy doing kitchen engineering with my kids. We were looking to do a robotics experiment which would require a linear solenoid actuator to continuously pump. I thought it would be simple until I realized that I would likely need a 555 chip(?) and some skills with circuitry...which would be fine if that was the lesson for me and my kids. Basically...anybody know where I might purchase a linear solenoid that is in the astable position. They seem surprisingly hard to come by? Thank you! Sorry this isn't an academic question.
 
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Thank you Nidum. I was the one that posted to the original thread you site. After taking what you said from that one I did online searching on building a simple circuit but it would take me some time to figure out and experiment as I am on level 2 with circuitry. My interest is in mechanical motion. I'd like to learn circuitry but time and our exercise we are doing is on robotic motion. I went to youtube and there are some basic set ups but I find myself straining to see how they wired the solenoid. And then the online look up seems that using a 555 chip is the way to go. If I can get by without having to do circuitry that would be great.
 
There is an alternative solution using a motor and crank to push and pull a rod continuously and at an easily controlled rate .

Simple model boat motors will be ok .

If you are interested in robotics then look into simple stepper motor applications . Much of what you would need for experimentation can be bought ready made and there is an easy road to computer control .
 
Time delay relays are old technology. You can make an astable solenoid by including a big lump of iron in the magnetic path. It takes so long to magnetise and demagnetise the core that the solenoid switches very slowly. A relay contact on the solenoid can be used to sense the state and power the coil when the solenoid gap opens.

A magnetic time delay relay can control the power to a larger solenoid. A flyback diode can be used to adjust the symmetry of operation.
What period of operation do you want for the On and for the Off states ?
 
How you want to apply this solenoid- pump combination?
Is it to provide a continuous flow or more like a plunger to cycle something connected to the end of a liquid filled tube?
If you want something that will simply provide a liquid/gas flow; then, have you considered using a standard electric micro pump?
There are a variety of small diaphragm liquid and gas pumps available on line with a wide range of delivery rates and operating voltages.
 

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