Where Did I Go Wrong in Calculating Net Current Through a Circle?

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The discussion centers on a user's confusion regarding the calculation of net current through a circle using magnetic fields. The user attempts to apply Ampère's law but makes an error in the integration step, specifically when transitioning from the expression involving the magnetic field (B) and differential length (dl) to a simplified form. Key hints provided point out the importance of maintaining the differential element in the integration and recognizing that the dot product of vectors should be used. Additionally, the use of LaTeX for clearer mathematical representation is encouraged. The conversation highlights the significance of careful notation and understanding in physics calculations.
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Homework Statement
The magnetic field at any point in the xy plane is given by B vector = A r vector times K, where r vector is the position vector of the point, A is a constant, and K is a unit vector in the +z direction. The net current through a circle of radius R, in the xy plane and centered at the origin is given by:

A) π AR^2/μ0
B) 2 π AR/μ0
C) 4 π AR^3/3μ0
D) 2 π AR^2/μ0
E) π AR^2/2μ0

Ans : D
Relevant Equations
∮ B * dl =μ0 * I
Here's what I did:
∮ B * dl =μ0 * I
∮ AR * 2π*R =μ0 * I
∮ 2π*AR^2 / μ0 = I
∮ 2π*AR^3 / 3μ0 = I

Where did I do wrong?
 
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"B vector = A r vector times K, where r vector is the position vector of the point, A is a constant, and K is a unit vector in the +z direction"
Not sure what that means. Is that ##\vec B=A\vec r\times\hat k##?
 
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haruspex said:
"B vector = A r vector times K, where r vector is the position vector of the point, A is a constant, and K is a unit vector in the +z direction"
Not sure what that means. Is that ##\vec B=A\vec r\times\hat k##?
yes!
 
hidemi said:
Here's what I did:
∮ B * dl =μ0 * I
∮ AR * 2π*R =μ0 * I
∮ 2π*AR^2 / μ0 = I
∮ 2π*AR^3 / 3μ0 = I

Where did I do wrong?
The mistake is in the step going from
“∮ B * dl =μ0 * I”
to
“∮ AR * 2π*R =μ0 * I “
Can you spot it?

Learning to use Latex for equations is not that hard. Click the 'Latex Guide' link (bottom/left of the window where you enter message). If you are posting regularly, it's worth the time/effort.
 
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Steve4Physics said:
The mistake is in the step going from
“∮ B * dl =μ0 * I”
to
“∮ AR * 2π*R =μ0 * I “
Can you spot it?

Learning to use Latex for equations is not that hard. Click the 'Latex Guide' link (bottom/left of the window where you enter message). If you are posting regularly, it's worth the time/effort.
Could you give me a hint? please.
 
hidemi said:
Could you give me a hint? please.
Hint 1:
What are you integrating with respect to, in your expression “∮ AR * 2π*R ?

Hint 2:
Going from:
“∮ B * dl =μ0 * I”
to:
“∮ AR * 2π*R =μ0 * I “
your have removed the "dl" and replaced it with 2πR. What does that tell you?

If you still haven't got it, click on this spoiler:

By using 2πR you have completed the line-integral. So your second equation should simply be:
“AR * 2π*R =μ0 * I “
without the “∮" symbol. You have completed the integration! No further integration is needed!

As an additional note, you should really be writing expressions such as ##∮ \vec B \cdot \vec {dl}## because the question is stated in terms of vectors and we are integrating the scalar (dot) product of two vectors.
 
Steve4Physics said:
Hint 1:
What are you integrating with respect to, in your expression “∮ AR * 2π*R ?

Hint 2:
Going from:
“∮ B * dl =μ0 * I”
to:
“∮ AR * 2π*R =μ0 * I “
your have removed the "dl" and replaced it with 2πR. What does that tell you?

If you still haven't got it, click on this spoiler:

By using 2πR you have completed the line-integral. So your second equation should simply be:
“AR * 2π*R =μ0 * I “
without the “∮" symbol. You have completed the integration! No further integration is needed!

As an additional note, you should really be writing expressions such as ##∮ \vec B \cdot \vec {dl}## because the question is stated in terms of vectors and we are integrating the scalar (dot) product of two vectors.
Thank you for answering my stupid question :)
 
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