Where is a solution valid in an initial value problem?

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The discussion revolves around an initial value problem from Adam's Calculus involving a differential equation and its solution. The specific problem is to determine the validity of the solution across different intervals, particularly concerning the point x=0.

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  • Participants explore the reasoning behind the solution's validity only in the interval (-∞, 0) and question why positive values are excluded. There is discussion about differentiability and the implications of singularities in the solution.

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Participants are actively questioning the reasoning provided in the textbook regarding the interval of validity. Some have offered insights into differentiability and the uniqueness of solutions, while others express uncertainty about the concepts being discussed.

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There is a focus on the initial condition at x=-2 and how it relates to the overall solution's behavior, particularly around the singularity at x=0. The discussion also touches on the implications of the solution's behavior as it approaches infinity.

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The problem is from Adam's Calculus (7th Ed). It is an initial value problem, and I solved it:
<br /> \begin{cases}<br /> y&#039;=\frac{3+2x^{2}}{x^{2}} \\<br /> y(-2)=1<br /> \end{cases} \\<br /> \implies y=-\frac{3}{x}+2x+\frac{7}{2}<br />

I can see that the solution is not valid for x=0, but the book says that the solutions is only valid for the interval

(-\infty,0) because "that is the largest interval that contains the initial point -2 but not the point x=0.

I do not understand this. Why can x not be larger than 0?
 
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Maybe because in certain points it's not differentiable. In addiction, 0 is in an open interval, that means you got to not consider that
 
Thank you for your answer, Domenico.

But is this function not differentiable for all x except 0?

And even if there are other points, should the book not mention these points instead of excluding the whole interval after 0?
 
The point in question is -2, so why should it include positive values as well? I think that's the reason
 
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Thank you, Domenico! I'm not sure I entirely understand it, but maybe it becomes more apparent as I learn more :)
 
Akitirija said:
The problem is from Adam's Calculus (7th Ed). It is an initial value problem, and I solved it:
<br /> \begin{cases}<br /> y&#039;=\frac{3+2x^{2}}{x^{2}} \\<br /> y(-2)=1<br /> \end{cases} \\<br /> \implies y=-\frac{3}{x}+2x+\frac{7}{2}<br />

I can see that the solution is not valid for x=0, but the book says that the solutions is only valid for the interval

(-\infty,0) because "that is the largest interval that contains the initial point -2 but not the point x=0.

I do not understand this. Why can x not be larger than 0?

The following function is smooth on \mathbb{R} \setminus \{0\} for, and satisfies the initial value problem for, every C \in \mathbb{R}:
<br /> y(x) = \begin{cases} - \tfrac{3}{x} + 2x + \tfrac72, &amp; x &lt; 0,\\<br /> - \tfrac{3}{x} + 2x + C, &amp; x &gt; 0. \end{cases}<br /> It follows that the solution on \mathbb{R} \setminus \{0\} is not unique unless you also specify the value of y at some x_0 &gt; 0. Usually when solving ODEs we want unique solutions, and to do that we have sometimes to restrict the domain to a neighbourhood of the point where the initial condition is to be applied.

Also, in applications, our interpretation of this solution would be that some object reaches infinity, or some quantity becomes infinite, in finite time, which suggests a problem with our model; we can't conclude that the object subsequently reappears at the opposite end of the universe, or that the quantity subsequently becomes arbitrarily large and negative.

In general, if you're antidifferentiating a function which has singularities at a finite number of points x_1 &lt; \dots &lt; x_n, then you can take different constants of integration on each of the disjoint intervals (-\infty, x_1), (x_1, x_2), ..., (x_{n-1}, x_n), (x_n, \infty), and the result will be a continuous function on \mathbb{R} \setminus \{x_1, \dots, x_n\}.
 
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Thank you very much, pasmith! I just started studying this, so I hope I can ask you one probably very stupid question: What do you mean by "the initial condition"?
 

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