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The discussion revolves around the motion of an object along the x-axis described by the position function x=At^2-Bt+C. Participants are tasked with evaluating the applicability of two equations related to motion: v^2=vo^2+2a(x-xo) and v average=1/2(v+vo), particularly in the context of constant acceleration.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the validity of using the equations based on the nature of the position function and its derivatives. There is a discussion about the implications of constant acceleration and the definitions of average velocity.

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The conversation is ongoing, with some participants asserting that the first equation is applicable due to constant acceleration, while others question the correctness of the second equation regarding average velocity. There is a focus on evaluating the definitions and calculations involved.

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Participants are navigating through definitions of average velocity and the implications of the position function being a polynomial of degree 2. There is a mention of the need for mathematical evaluation to support claims.

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An object moves along the x-axis according to the position function x=At^2-Bt+C, where x is in meters and t in seconds; A,B, C are constants. Explain why or why not the equations v^2= vo^2+2a(x-xo) and v average= 1/2(v+vo) can be used to describe the motion of the object. Using mathematics is recommended[/B]

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So, the first one would be possible because it is describing a constant acceleration equation and since it is only a polynomial of degree 2 the acceleration would be constant. Also, you can find the velocity by taking the 1st derivative and the acceleration is the second derivative. The second equation is wrong because average velocity is displacement over change in time.
 
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Homework Statement


An object moves along the x-axis according to the position function x=At^2-Bt+C, where x is in meters and t in seconds; A,B, C are constants. Explain why or why not the equations v^2= vo^2+2a(x-xo) and v average= 1/2(v+vo) can be used to describe the motion of the object. Using mathematics is recommended[/B]

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So, the first one would be possible because it is describing a constant acceleration equation and since it is only a polynomial of degree 2 the acceleration would be constant. Also, you can find the velocity by taking the 1st derivative and the acceleration is the second derivative. The second equation is wrong because average velocity is displacement over change in time.
The average velocity is the change in displacement over the change in time. If you evaluate that, you will find that the second equation is correct.

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I just don't understand what there is to evaluate . Because I thought avg velocity was x2-x1/t2-t1
 
PAstudent said:
I just don't understand what there is to evaluate . Because I thought avg velocity was x2-x1/t2-t1
##x_2-x_1=At^2-Bt##
##t_2-t_1=t##
Average velocity = ##At-B##
##v_0 = -B##
##v=2At-B##
Average velocity = ##\frac{v_0+v}{2}=At-B##
So what can you say about the second equation in this situation? Does it give the correct average velocity or not?

Chet
 

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