Which Convention Should Be Used to Calculate Electromagnetic Tensor Invariants?

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Homework Statement


Hi,

I have to calculate the invariant: [tex]\tilde{F}^{\mu \nu} \, F_{\mu \nu}[/tex]
where F is the electromagnetic field tensor and [tex]\tilde{F}[/tex] the dual one.

Homework Equations


First, the contravariant components of the electromagnetic field tensor are given by:
[tex]F^{\mu\nu} = \begin{bmatrix} 0 & -E_1 & -E_2 & -E_3 \\ E_1 & 0 & -B_3 & B_2 \\ E_2 & B_3 & 0 & -B_1 \\ E_3 & -B_2 & B_1 & 0 \end{bmatrix}[/tex]

and the covariant by:
[tex]F_{\mu\nu} = \begin{bmatrix} 0 & E_1 & E_2 & E_3 \\ -E_1 & 0 & -B_3 & B_2 \\ -E_2 & B_3 & 0 & -B_1 \\ -E_3 & -B_2 & B_1 & 0 \end{bmatrix}[/tex]

And last but not least, the contravariant components of the dual elm. field tensor:
[tex]\tilde{F}^{\mu\nu} = \begin{bmatrix} 0 & -B_1 & -B_2 & -B_3 \\ B_1 & 0 & E_3 & -E_2 \\ B_2 & -E_3 & 0 & E_1 \\ B_3 & E_2 & -E_1 & 0 \end{bmatrix}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


First I note:
[tex]\tilde{F}^{a0} = B^{a}[/tex]

[tex]\tilde{F}^{ab} = \epsilon^{abi} E_{i}[/tex]

[tex]F_{a0} = - E_{a}[/tex]

[tex]F_{ab} = \epsilon_{abc} B^{c}[/tex]

Now, if I use these relations I obtain the wrong solution:

[tex]\tilde{F}^{\mu \nu} \, F_{\mu \nu} = 2 \tilde{F}^{a0} F_{a0} + \tilde{F}^{ab} F_{ab} = - 2 B^{a} E_{a} + \epsilon^{abi} E_{i} \epsilon_{abc} B^{c} = 0[/tex]
where I used the relation: [tex]\epsilon^{abi} \epsilon_{abc} = 2 \delta^{i}_{c}[/tex]

Of course, if i simply insert the components explicitly (the "matrix elements") I get the result [tex]\tilde{F}^{\mu \nu} \, F_{\mu \nu} = - 4 \vec{B} \cdot \vec{E}[/tex] and everything is fine.

I used the following convention: [tex]\epsilon^{0123} = 1[/tex], latin indices: {1,2,3}, greek indices: {0,1,2,3}

Further I calculated: [tex]\epsilon_{123} = \eta_{\alpha 1} \, \eta_{\beta 2} \, \eta_{\gamma 3} \, \epsilon^{\alpha \beta \gamma} = - 1[/tex] where [tex]\eta = diag(1, -1, -1, -1)[/tex] is the metric tensor.

I think there has to be a wrong sign, but I don't find it. Does anyone have an idea?
 
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parton said:
[tex]F_{ab} = \epsilon_{abc} B^{c}[/tex]

I think you might want to double check this one :wink:
 
hmmm, I don't see anything wrong here !?

If I check it I obtain the right elements, for example: [tex]F_{12} = \epsilon_{123} B^{3} = - B^{3}[/tex].
 
parton said:
hmmm, I don't see anything wrong here !?

If I check it I obtain the right elements, for example: [tex]F_{12} = \epsilon_{123} B^{3} = - B^{3}[/tex].

[tex]\epsilon_{123}=+1[/tex] :wink:
 
parton said:
Further I calculated: [tex]\epsilon_{123} = \eta_{\alpha 1} \, \eta_{\beta 2} \, \eta_{\gamma 3} \, \epsilon^{\alpha \beta \gamma} = - 1[/tex]

This assumes that [tex]\epsilon_{abc}[/tex] transforms as a tensor; but it doesn't. It is a tensor density with weight -1.
 
ok, [tex]\epsilon_{ijk}[/tex] is a pseudotensor, but where is the difference between covariant [tex]\epsilon_{ijk}[/tex] and contravariant [tex]\epsilon^{ijk}[/tex] components?

In the case with 4 indices there is a difference, for example: [tex]\epsilon^{0123} \neq \epsilon_{0123}[/tex]. Why should it be different with 3 components?
 
parton said:
ok, [tex]\epsilon_{ijk}[/tex] is a pseudotensor, but where is the difference between covariant [tex]\epsilon_{ijk}[/tex] and contravariant [tex]\epsilon^{ijk}[/tex] components?

There isn't a difference in the convention that I'm used to seeing.

In the case with 4 indices there is a difference, for example: [tex]\epsilon^{0123} \neq \epsilon_{0123}[/tex]. Why should it be different with 3 components?

I'm assuming that you are using the same convention (the most common convention) http://planetmath.org/encyclopedia/LeviCivitaPermutationSymbol3.html .

In that case, then [tex]\epsilon^{0123} = \epsilon_{0123}[/tex].

If you are using some other convention, whereby [tex]\epsilon_{123}=-1[/tex] , then your problem is in the equation [tex]\epsilon^{abi} \epsilon_{abc} = 2 \delta^{i}_{c}[/tex] instead.
 
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i've found something, have a look at this (page 9): http://www.worldscibooks.com/phy_etextbook/6938/6938_chap01.pdf"

Further I found something in another wiki (but it's not in english). There is a remark that in relativity there you have to differ between co- and contravariant indices. It is just convention whether you use [tex]\epsilon^{0123}[/tex]= +1 or -1.

But all this doesn't explain my problem :confused:
 
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parton said:
i've found something, have a look at this (page 9): http://www.worldscibooks.com/phy_etextbook/6938/6938_chap01.pdf"

The convention used in the above link is not very common; but if that is the convention you use in your course then you can stick with it.

According to that convention, [tex]\epsilon_{ijk}=-e^{ijk}[/tex] and [tex]e_{123}=1[/tex]. Therefor, [tex]\epsilon^{abi} \epsilon_{abc} = -2 \delta^{i}_{c}[/tex] in this convention. In addition, epsilon is a tensor in this convention.

So the question you need to ask yourself is which convention is used in your course text/notes?
 
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