Which Degree is Best for Aspiring Theoretical Physicists: Math or Physics?

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The discussion revolves around the decision-making process for aspiring theoretical physicists regarding whether to pursue a degree in mathematics or physics. Participants explore the implications of each educational path, including the relevance of mathematical training to physics and the importance of experimental experience for theorists.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to understand the pros and cons of pursuing a physics versus a math undergraduate degree, noting the essential role of mathematics in physics.
  • Another participant argues that a math degree may lack exposure to specific physics courses like Advanced E&M and Statistical Mechanics, which include physical principles not typically covered in math programs.
  • A different participant mentions that their university's math program includes courses related to Statistical Physics and E&M, suggesting that some math degrees can incorporate relevant physics topics.
  • There is a reference to the concept of "Cognate" courses, indicating that some institutions allow math students to take physics courses, potentially bridging the gap between the two disciplines.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best degree path, as differing views on the adequacy of math programs in covering physics concepts and the importance of experimental experience for theorists are presented.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note limitations in course offerings at their respective universities, such as the absence of a double major option and the specific physics topics available within math programs.

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I am hoping to become a physicist focusing mainly on the theoretical side in the future. I am trying to decide whether to go for a physics or math undergrad course.

Assuming that I am capable of doing either, what are the pros and cons of either route?

I know that mathematics is essential to doing physics, and in most math courses, there are applied math modules that are very much related to physics. Also that many research physicists have math degrees. But surely there is a reason why people choose the physics course over the math course and vice versa? In particular, what are the advantages of a physics degree over a math one, given that a math degree could lead to PhD in physics and possibly open more possibilities in say the financial world (though that is not my interest)?
How important is experimental experience to a theorist?

Thank you.
 
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It would be quite unusual for a someone doing a math degree to have the option to take Advanced E&M, Statistical Mechanics etc. These all have a lot of math in them but they have underlying physical principles that a math major is never taught.

I assume that you are European / Non USA as if you were surely the prospect of a double major should have crossed your mind.
 
@DarthFrodo: Thank you. Actually the Math course at my university does cover Statistical Physics, E&M, etc. Though not topics like condensed matter, solid state physics, etc.

A double major is not available at my university.
 
The concept of "Cognate" is applied in the choice of courses for the major field. This is regarding university education in some places outside of Europe. At institutions which apply the cognate courses, the Mathematics degree seeker CAN certainly learn sets of topics from Physics including Electricity & Magnetism and many parts of what you could include in "etcetera".
 

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