Which elective on applied physics? Optics vs Material Science

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The discussion revolves around the selection of elective courses in applied physics, specifically comparing Optics and Material Science. Participants explore the relevance and benefits of these courses in relation to their academic and career goals, as well as the prerequisites and foundational knowledge required for each subject.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that Optics is typically taught at the end of the first year and suggests that Fiber Optics may require prior knowledge of Optics.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of Optics in physics, citing its relevance to many experimental methods.
  • Some participants express a preference for Optics due to its perceived importance, while others highlight their department's focus on Material Science and condensed matter research.
  • There is a suggestion that substituting physics electives for mathematics courses could be beneficial, though this remains uncertain.
  • A participant mentions that their introductory physics course covered basic concepts of Optics, implying that the applied course would delve deeper into the subject.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the value of Optics versus Material Science, indicating that there is no clear consensus on which elective is more beneficial. Some participants advocate for Optics, while others emphasize the significance of Material Science in their specific academic context.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss prerequisites for the courses, noting that Material Processing requires prior completion of Material Science. There is also mention of foundational mathematics knowledge that may influence course selection.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering electives in applied physics, particularly those interested in Optics or Material Science, as well as those evaluating the balance between physics and mathematics in their studies.

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I am pursuing my Bsc in Physics.
I am still in sophomore year.
This semester and next year I am intending to take some applied physics courses as electives.

I got choices for Junior level electives, which are:
-Optics: covers geometrical optics, interference, diffraction etc.
-Fiber Optics: covers waveguides, fiber fabrication, optical sources/detectors etc.
-Intro to Material Science: covers crystal structures, microstructures and microscopy, defects, phases etc.
-Intro to Material Processing: covers thin film preparation, chemical processing etc.

At most, I am able to take two course from the list.
In general, at this level, which ones do you think are most beneficial(practical purpose or for understanding)?
Please tell me any advices you have.
I have checked some similar thread in physicsforums. It seems some think optics at this level a bit dull.
 
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Optics is doable at the end of your first year, that's when my university teaches it. Fibre optics will probably require knowledge of optics. Material science is probably a prerequisite for material processing as well.
I would advise optics and either fibre optics or material science. It truly depends on where your interests lie, but optics is one of the most important subjects in physics, at least that's my experience because many optical methods are used in experiments.
 
Hey, thanks.
True, material processing course requires the material science course as pre-requisite.

In general, I lean on Optics. It seems important.
But, my department is known for its material science/condensed matter research.

I am still wondering is it even better to substitute those physics electives for mathematics.
 
A lot of condensed matter requires some knowledge of optics. I actually think it's weird that you're studying physics but have had no optics, because it's a first step to quantum mechanics.

I don't know what courses on math you've had, but if you've had calculus up to and including the integral theorems of Gauss and Stokes and some linear algebra (eigenvectors, diagonalizing matrices, systems of differential equations) I think you should be fine.
 
Well, optics as at the level of HRW were discussed in my intro phys course.
My impression is that since those applied physics courses I mentioned are supposed to be taken in my 3rd year of study, the optics course will examine the concepts deeper.

I took calc 3 and linear algebra classes btw.
 

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