Which is better for high cycle output: elevator or piston/cylinder?

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The discussion compares the efficiency of using an elevator system versus a piston/cylinder system powered by a 1 horsepower motor for high cycle output. The elevator system benefits from counterweights, potentially allowing for higher speeds with less energy consumption, but its performance may vary based on the load. In contrast, the piston/cylinder system is considered more reliable and capable of achieving higher cyclic rates. There is also a suggestion to use a camshaft connected to a reducer to achieve a desired RPM, raising questions about its ability to handle the required torque. Ultimately, the choice between the two systems hinges on the specific application and load conditions.
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[SOLVED] Elevator vs. Piston/Cylinder

In designing a reciprocating linear motion force, I have two approaches to the problem using a standard 1 horsepower motor. The travel is 2 feet forward and 2 feet backwords with a minimum force of 200lbs.

From calculations, each cycle of the reciprocating motion will generate at minimum:
2(200LBS x 2FT) = 800 FT LBS per cycle.

Theoretical maximum with 100% efficiency will yield:
(33,000FT LBS) / (800 FT LBS/cycle) = 41.25 Cycles/Minute


If I had a choice between designing a system where the 1HP motor will power a system much like a car's piston/cylinder approach, or one where the 1HP motor will power a cable-system-powered-elevator, which would be a better approach to attain the highest cycles per minute?

The elevator approach would have counterweights to balance the system in order to conserve energy since if it's balanced, it'll require only a little bit of force to tip the balance to move the counterweight down and the elevator up.



I am not asking for calculations, but just opinions on which would be the better route to take in terms of output cycles per minute.


Thanks
 
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Welcome to PF, Bananabrownin.
It seems to me that the crank system is inherently capable of much higher cyclic rates than the cable, and is probably more reliable as well.
 
I like the elevator idea. The only problem might be that your speed would be determined by the amount of passengers/load the elevator would lifting. No load, all the speed you need.
 
For an application that requires 200 FT LBS, would a camshaft suffice?

My idea was connecting a 1HP motor to a reducer to obtain ~35RPM and attaching a camshaft to the output shaft. Then mounted above the camshaft will be a cam follower that will travel up and down as the camshaft rotates.

Example picture is g.photos.cx/CAM-95.jpg

Would a camshaft be able to support torques of that amount or will 200 FT LBS exceed the inherently simple design of linear reciprocating motion?
 
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