Which liquid would be the best to swim up in?

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of swimming to the surface of 20 feet of either alcohol or honey. It is established that swimming in alcohol is nearly impossible due to its lower density compared to water, which would cause a person to sink. In contrast, honey, while denser and highly viscous, offers some buoyancy that could allow a person to float. However, the viscosity of honey would make it extremely difficult to swim through, requiring significant energy to move even a short distance. Participants in the discussion emphasize that both scenarios are likely fatal, with honey potentially allowing for some floating but not enough to escape in time. The conversation also references external sources discussing the effects of immersion in alcohol and the challenges posed by liquids with high viscosity. Overall, the consensus is that neither liquid presents a viable option for survival.
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A friend and I were debating this.

Would you be better trying to swim to the surface of 20 feet of alcohol or 20 feet of honey.

We can figure out that swimming out of alcohol is rather hopeless due to density but for honey we have no way to consider the viscosity of the liquid. Any thoughts?
 
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cubby208 said:
A friend and I were debating this.

Would you be better trying to swim to the surface of 20 feet of alcohol or 20 feet of honey.

We can figure out that swimming out of alcohol is rather hopeless due to density but for honey we have no way to consider the viscosity of the liquid. Any thoughts?
What the heck are you asking about?

Viscosity of alcohol (which version?) is close to water. Why would it be hard to swim to the surface?
 
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What type of alcohol? Ethanol? Methanol? More details needed
 
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The alcohol is on fire?
 
You wouldn't be able to swim very well in honey, but you'd float with little effort. So assuming 20ft of honey didn't crush you first, you'd float to the top without trying very hard.

Alcholol would get absorbed too easily, so while you could swim, you probably wouldn't be conscious very long.
 
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If I understand the question properly, in both cases you start 20 ft below the surface?

I see no way of surviving in neither case. Our density is very similar to water, so with full lungs we in fact float near the surface, there is no need for a substantial effort to keep us there (most of the struggle is to keep head high enough for breathing). In ethanol - because of a low density - you will sink to the bottom, it would be like trying to swim in water with a 20 kg stone attached. In honey you won't get to the surface fast enough to survive (although after some time your body will be much easier to collect, as it will reach the surface on its own).
 
Evidently the alcohol end of this question is one that fascinates many, since Googling unEarth's a rich lode of hits. The OP has already been given some particularly macabre answers; here's a link to more:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...jumped-in-a-pool-full-of-alcohol-8940636.html

The scenario envisioned in the above link is a tiny bit different - "what happens if I jump into a swimming pool full of hard alcohol" - but the results are deemed to just as unpleasantly fatal. E.g.:

"As you are in the air, you will likely begin to feel the effects of alcohol inhalation. Enjoy the few fractions of a second of buzz – things are about to get bad. As you hit, you'll get a preview of what you're in for. Small cuts on your feet and legs will sting, and maybe your skin will start to chill and feel like you just suddenly did the reverse of moisturising.

"Then the real pain will start – as you hit the first sensitive parts of your body, where live cells are exposed, or where the skin is thinner and nerves are clustered. As your sexual organs and anus submerge you will feel pain like the wrong end of the nastiest bowl of Texas chilli you ever imagined."
 
But you might be OK with wine . . .

 
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The Mythbusters explored what happens when swimming in liquids much denser than water.
 
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Honey is 1.42 times as dense as water, but 10,000 times as viscous. I think it would take far too much energy to move 20ft through it in the time you could hold your breath.
 
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Honey is 1.42 times as dense as water, but 10,000 times as viscous.

That seems a bit high, what tempature are you looking at?
 
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Student100 said:
That seems a bit high, what tempature are you looking at?

http://www.vp-scientific.com/Viscosity_Tables.htm

Another source quotes it as being 2000-3000 cps, and water at 1-5 cps. Still, it's many times more viscous than it is dense - so the added buoyancy doesn’t seem like it will offset the viscosity that much.
 
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