Which surfaces get positively charge by grabbing (static electricity)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of static electricity and the charging of surfaces through contact, particularly in relation to materials like balloons and batteries. Participants explore concepts such as electron affinity, electrical polarization, and the behavior of different materials in static charge interactions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the charging of surfaces is influenced by the materials involved and their electron affinity.
  • There is a question about why the negative side of a battery does not create electrical polarization like a balloon does.
  • One participant notes that the voltage difference required for objects to stick to surfaces like ceilings is typically very high, which batteries do not provide.
  • Another participant proposes that the plastic casing of batteries may insulate them sufficiently, preventing electrostatic attraction, while magnets are more effective in sticking to surfaces.
  • One participant shares an experimental observation regarding the movement of electrons in batteries, indicating that connections between battery terminals are necessary for electron flow.
  • There is speculation about the limited movement of electrons within batteries and their potential recycling when connected properly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the mechanisms of static electricity and the behavior of materials, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on assumptions about material properties and electrical behavior that are not fully explored or defined in the discussion. The relationship between voltage, charge, and material interactions is also not resolved.

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So is it becouse the material or becouse the fact that the balloon is the object that moves and the hair is static. and does every two objects that been grabed together will nacessrly continues each other.
and also why does the minos of a bttary doesn't stick to the flower
 
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you know why does the negative side of the battery doesn't create Electrical Polarization and stick to the
ceiling like a balloon?
 
danielhaish said:
you know why does the negative side of the battery doesn't create Electrical Polarization and stick to the
ceiling like a balloon?
The voltage difference necessary to get something to stick to the ceiling is typically in the thousands of volts. Luckily for us, the discharge current and amount of time is minimal. Batteries just don't have high enough voltage potential.
 
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Ok cool
 
danielhaish said:
Ok cool

Have you ever seen someone stick a magnet to a AA battery? My first guess would be that he used some magnets.

Take a look at this
 
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danielhaish said:
why does the minos of a bttary doesn't stick to the flower
The battery video is a Trick so the Physics of the situation that you 'see' is not right. As @scottdave suggests, there's probably a magnet stuck to the back of the fabric, somewhere.
It is possible that the plastic case of the batteries is a good enough insulator to allow it to be charged up electrically but they are too heavy for Electrostatic attraction to be enough. Magnets do the job much better.
 
I think i found my answer i made an experience I connect a motor to Minos of one battery and to the positive side of another battery and nothing happened until I connect the battery s together so the electrons in the battery moving only if you
Connect it to it possitive side
 
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So I assume that only small part of the elctrons move to the positive side an then the battery didn't recycled the the potential
 
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