Inside Out: The Possibility of White Holes and Black Holes Within Each Other

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of white holes and black holes existing inside one another, but it is difficult to test and there is no way to know for sure. There is also mention of negative mass and the idea that it is a mathematical concept rather than a physical reality. Overall, the conversation touches on the limitations of our understanding of black holes and the complexities of General Relativity.
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hypothetically speaking, are white holes inside white holes possible?
and also, are black holes inside black holes possible?
 
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It may be literally impossible to test for what goes on inside the event horizon of a black hole, so there's probably no way of knowing.

But...

If there's an expert in General Relativity willing to comment, an alternative question would be, in the Schwarzschild metric, can spherical shells of negative mass (or some other such thing) within the event horizon of one black hole, make the local curvature flat enough that you can meaningfully talk about a second event horizon further down?

Maybe one way of thinking about it would be to say whether such a shell would allow you to arrest your descent if you had a relativistic orbital velocity?

I know very little about General relativity, so I can't comment beyond that.
 
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I have read it here several times that when black holes merge, the result is just a bigger black hole. there is no way to form a black hole inside a black hole.

White holes are generally considered to be a mathematical oddity with no physical reality.
 
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Indeed, negative mass is a mathematical oddity.
 

1. What is the difference between a white hole and a black hole?

A black hole is a region of spacetime where the gravitational pull is so strong that nothing, including light, can escape it. A white hole, on the other hand, is a hypothetical region of spacetime where matter and energy can only escape, and nothing can enter. Essentially, a black hole is an "inward" flow of matter and energy, while a white hole is an "outward" flow.

2. How are white holes and black holes formed?

Black holes are formed when a massive star dies and its core collapses under its own gravity, resulting in a singularity. White holes, on the other hand, are purely theoretical and have never been observed or proven to exist in nature. They are a solution to Einstein's field equations in general relativity, but their formation is still a subject of debate among scientists.

3. Can anything escape from a black hole?

According to our current understanding of physics, nothing can escape from a black hole once it has crossed the event horizon, which is the point of no return. However, some theories suggest that information may be able to escape in the form of Hawking radiation, but this is still a topic of debate and has not been proven.

4. Are there any observable effects of black holes and white holes?

Yes, there are several observable effects of black holes, such as gravitational lensing, which occurs when the intense gravity of a black hole bends light around it. In contrast, there are no observable effects of white holes, as they are purely theoretical and have not been observed in nature.

5. Can white holes and black holes coexist?

No, white holes and black holes cannot coexist in the same region of spacetime. This is because they have opposite effects on matter and energy, with black holes pulling everything in and white holes pushing everything out. However, some theories suggest that they could exist in separate universes or in different dimensions.

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