Who uses scientific calculators?

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Scientific calculators are primarily used by students and teachers, but also by engineers, physicists, and occasionally mathematicians for basic calculations. Many professionals prefer software like MATLAB for complex data analysis, as scientific calculators are often limited in functionality. Users appreciate the tactile experience of handheld calculators, especially for quick calculations, despite the prevalence of smartphone apps that offer similar functions. The discussion highlights a nostalgic appreciation for older models like the HP-15, which balanced portability and features effectively. Ultimately, the use of scientific calculators today is often dictated by educational contexts that restrict access to more advanced computational tools.
  • #31
dkotschessaa said:
Yeah, this is kind of what I was thinking. I believe that mechanical devices like slide rules and abucuses (abaci? I don't know the plural) can really help mathematical intuition.
Yes, abaci is the correct plural, which I believe is pronounced ab' a see.
Working with a slide rule can help with mathematical intuition because you have to figure out the correct power of ten for many calculations, such as 432 x 363. The way it works is that you put the 1 marker on the C scale on, say, 4.32 on the D scale, and then slide the cursor to 3.63 on the C scale.(In doing this I actually had to put the 1 marker at the right end of the C scale on 4.32). On the D scale, the cursor shows a little shy of 1.57. Since 432 is really 4.32 X 102 and 363 is really 3.63 X 102, my slide rule answer is 15.7 X 104, or 1.57 X 105. This isn't too far from the exact answer, 156,816.

How a slide rule works for multiplication can give one a good insight to logarithms, as many of the scales are laid out logarithmically. The 1 on the left end of the C and D scales represents 0 (the log10 1 is 0). The 1 on the right end of these scales represents 10 (whose log is 1). The 2 on these scales is placed about .3010 of the way between the two ends, and 3 is placed about .4771 of the way.

When you multiply 2 and 3, you are really adding the logs of these numbers, and getting the log (base 10) of the answer. For example, placing the left-end 1 of the C scale on the 3 of the D scale, and then moving the cursor to the 2 on the C scale lines up with the 6 marker on the D scale. In effect you are doing this addition: ##\log 3 + \log 2 = \log(3 \cdot 2) = \log 6##.

Division is just the opposite; instead of adding the lengths (adding the logs), you subtract the lengths.To calculate 3/2, put the 3 on the C scale above the 2 on the D scale, and read the answer on the D scale under the 1 on the C scale. You are effectively subtracting the length of 2 (on the C scale) from the length of 3 (on the D scale) to get the quotient, keeping in mind that what I'm referring to as "lengths" are really logarithms in base-10.
 
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Mark44 said:
Yes, abaci is the correct plural, which I believe is pronounced ab' a see.
Working with a slide rule can help with mathematical intuition because you have to figure out the correct power of ten for many calculations, such as 432 x 363. The way it works is that you put the 1 marker on the C scale on, say, 4.32 on the D scale, and then slide the cursor to 3.63 on the C scale.(In doing this I actually had to put the 1 marker at the right end of the C scale on 4.32). On the D scale, the cursor shows a little shy of 1.57. Since 432 is really 4.32 X 102 and 363 is really 3.63 X 102, my slide rule answer is 15.7 X 104, or 1.57 X 105. This isn't too far from the exact answer, 156,816.

How a slide rule works for multiplication can give one a good insight to logarithms, as many of the scales are laid out logarithmically. The 1 on the left end of the C and D scales represents 0 (the log10 1 is 0). The 1 on the right end of these scales represents 10 (whose log is 1). The 2 on these scales is placed about .3010 of the way between the two ends, and 3 is placed about .4771 of the way.

When you multiply 2 and 3, you are really adding the logs of these numbers, and getting the log (base 10) of the answer. For example, placing the left-end 1 of the C scale on the 3 of the D scale, and then moving the cursor to the 2 on the C scale lines up with the 6 marker on the D scale. In effect you are doing this addition: ##\log 3 + \log 2 = \log(3 \cdot 2) = \log 6##.

Division is just the opposite; instead of adding the lengths (adding the logs), you subtract the lengths.To calculate 3/2, put the 3 on the C scale above the 2 on the D scale, and read the answer on the D scale under the 1 on the C scale. You are effectively subtracting the length of 2 (on the C scale) from the length of 3 (on the D scale) to get the quotient, keeping in mind that what I'm referring to as "lengths" are really logarithms in base-10.

Thanks for this. When I get a moment I'm going to mess with the one I have.
 
  • #33
dkotschessaa said:
Thanks for this. When I get a moment I'm going to mess with the one I have.
I have four of them: a very cheap plastic one with scales on only one side and blank on the other; a plastic one that must have been a bit more expensive, with scales on both sides; an inexpensive aluminum one with scales on one side and fraction-to-decimal conversions and other stuff on the other side; a very nice bamboo slide rule with a leather case and a magnifying lens, and scales on both sides. This last one belonged to my wife's father. He must have gotten it back in the '30s or so.
 
  • #34
dkotschessaa said:
I inherited one from my dad and I really want to learn how to use it. I always thought it would help me intuitively understand logarithms a bit more.

-Dave K

I recently purchased two slide rules from ebay. sliderulemuseum.com has step by step instructions for basic use.
My older sister used one in high school and by the time I got there, TI calculators were in the classroom.

As for calculator use now, I have a HP48GX that I've used for the past 18 years and it's the only device I know... I love RPN.
 
  • #35
In my job I use a casio fx 300ES and the like for general math stuff but I use the time function almost every day. I have machine runs that takes 5 or 6 hours and the operators need to know when it will finish the run so I have to use the machine scan speed and calculate the run time so hour minute and second notation is crucial and it works well. I have a 12c also, trying to learn RPN programming and an HP48 but I seldom need that much caclulator, lot of conversions and such, pounds to grams, F to C, that kind of thing, and constants like c and G and such.
 
  • #36
Liberty Bell said:
Who uses scientific calculators, aside from students and teachers? Engineers and physicists, I suppose.

I am software engineer. I use standart windows calculator, but my collegues use scientific calc develop in our company in Delphi.
 

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