Why Are Both Angles the Same in an Inclined Plane Pulley System?

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The discussion revolves around an inclined plane pulley system involving two crates with different masses. The original poster seeks to understand why the angles associated with the incline and the ground are the same when analyzing the system.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster expresses confidence in solving the problem but is uncertain about the reasoning behind the equality of the angles. Some participants suggest geometric relationships and encourage visual exploration of the angles involved.

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Participants are engaging in a conceptual exploration of the geometry involved in the problem. Some have provided explanations based on geometric principles, while others encourage further investigation of the angles through manipulation and visualization.

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The discussion is constrained by the original poster's request for clarification on angle relationships without delving into the complete solution of the problem. There is an emphasis on understanding the geometric reasoning rather than solving for acceleration.

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Two packing crates of masses m1 = 10.0 kg and m2 = 3.00 kg are connected by a light string that passes over a frictionless pulley as in Figure P4.26. The 3.00 kg crate lies on a smooth incline of angle 42.0°. Find the acceleration of the 3.00 kg crate.



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i know exactly how to do this problem, and i got the right answer. I just can't figure out why you are allowed to use the same angle to the ground of the inclined plane to solve the problem, as in this picture:

http://www.fearofphysics.com/Probs/mech041fig02.jpg

why are both theta's the same?
 
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anyone have an idea?
 
It simply geometry. The weight vector in your picture makes a right triangle with the left end of the incline. The incline makes an angle theta with respect to the horizontal. Now within that right triangle, you have 3 angles; theta, a 90 degree angle, and an angle that is 180 degrees minus 90 degrees minus theta, let's call this angle beta. You have drawn a line perpendicular to the incline that completes another right triange along with the weight vector. This triangle has a 90 degree angle (right beside the first 90 angle), and an angle at the top of the triangle that, when added to the angle beta, must equal 90 degrees. In our first triangle we know that theta and beta must add to 90 degrees. So for our second triangle, we know that the top angle, when added to beta, must equal 90 degrees, and from the first triangle, we know that theta fits this requirement. That's the explanation in words, but I would suggest that you toy around with the angles to get a feel for it.
 
Yes. Extend the blue line in your free body to the ground, such that it makes a ninety degree angle with it, and then you shoul see by some analysis of both triangles that the angles are equal.

Fudge around with it and see what you get.

Casey
 

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