Why are less people taking higher edu phys?

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The discussion centers on the declining number of students pursuing physics in further and higher education, which has been highlighted in recent news. Participants express concern over this trend and seek to understand its causes. One contributor questions the validity of the claim and suggests researching statistics from reputable sources, noting potential differences between the UK and US data. Concerns are raised about the quality of physics education, with alarming statistics indicating that a significant portion of physics teachers lack relevant degrees. The conversation also touches on the shift in student interest towards engineering and chemistry, driven by job market demands, and the perception that vocational subjects are prioritized over technical ones like physics. The emotional and financial motivations behind career choices in engineering are discussed, with some expressing a desire for a balance between passion and monetary compensation. Overall, the thread reflects a shared sadness over the decline in physics enrollment and highlights systemic issues in education and career pathways.
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why are the number of people taking physics at further and higher education decreasing? it was on the news. is there any particular reason, cause i think that's sad...
 
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Alias25,

Do you have any reports to back up this statement? I am not sure that it is true (not trying to say that what you are saying is false, I truly don't know).
I don't have time to search through this stuff right now but for the US there is this information:
http://www.aip.org/statistics/trends/emptrends.html

I know you are in the UK, so there may be a significant difference in the numbers between the UK and the US, but my hunch is that there will not be. Just a hunch.

Oh yeah- don't believe everything you hear on the news or read in the papers. Do a little research and come to your own conclusions- it will make things much more meaningfull and concrete when evaluating the truthfulness of things.

Cheers,
Ryan
 
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I think he was referring to this: http://education.independent.co.uk/news/article328266.ece
 
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I can't really think of a reason for the decline at the moment. The part about a quarter of teachers not having a degree is pretty alarming, and that'a only going to get worse for the next few years it seems :(

Maybe it's got something to do with too much stress in earlier years now being put on stupid things like Key Skills, and a general drift away from technical subjects like Physics in favour of vocational ones (or so I've heard)?
 
The answer is real simple. Sadly, people are going into engineering or chemistry. There are more jobs for these professions. I'm a engineer and I'm realizing that I'm more of a physicist due to my insatiable curiosity. I realize that physicists don't do it for the money, but many engineers do engineering for the money.

Modey3
 
Engineer of what field, Modey?
 
but many engineers do engineering for the money.

I know when I get my job, I'll be doing it for the money ( of course I'm purposely omitting "I'm doing it for the love of it".) I'm making way too many sacrifices now > mentally, physically, emotionally, and socially. And for that, it better pay off in the long run.
 
I'm a Materials Engineer z-component.
 
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thanks....I had great physics teachers I guess I was lucky. that article says that there arn't many good qualified physics teachers in many schools.
 

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