Why Are My Phase Voltages the Same in This Motor Circuit?

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The discussion centers on a wye connected motor load with an open neutral and the analysis of phase voltages in the circuit. The user initially attempted to prove that the ratio of back EMF to phase current is equal across all phases, but later acknowledged that this cannot be proven as it does not hold true. The user clarified that the equality of phase voltages arises from the condition that the phase voltages sum to zero when back EMFs also sum to zero, particularly in a passive circuit with equal phase impedances. The simulation conducted in LTspice was initially misinterpreted, leading to confusion regarding the relationships between phase voltages and impedances.

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Hi,

I have attached a diagram of a wye connected motor load with open neutral. The circuit shows an inverter state with a DC-bus voltage from terminal A to G (ground). The following equations should hold:

V_AN = Z*Ia + Ea
V_GN = Z*Ib + Eb
V_GN = Z*Ic + Ec
Ia + Ib + Ic = 0
Ea + Eb + Ec = 0 (back EMFs sum to zero)

I want to prove that:

Ea/Ia = Eb/Ib = Ec/Ic

which would mean, according to:

V_AN/Ia = Z + Ea/Ia
V_GN/Ib = Z + Eb/Ib
V_GN/Ic = Z + Ec/Ic

that the impedance + back EMF in each phase can be replaced by the same effective impedance. I have verified this by simulation in LTspice.

This is probably very simple, but it has been bothering me all day. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
 

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Err, so I made a huge mistake when I did the simulation, Ea/Ia = Eb/Ib = Ec/Ic can't be proven because it doesn't hold :>

I was wondering why the phase voltages for the circuit I posted were the same for a passive circuit with equal phase impedances. This is naturally due to the fact that the phase voltages sum to zero in both cases (when back EMFs sum to zero):

V_AN + 2*V_GN = Z*Ia + Ea + Z*Ib + Eb + Z*Ic + Ec = Z(Ia + Ib + Ic) + Ea + Eb + Ec =>

V_AN + 2*V_GN = 0

which would be the same for the passive circuit.

If you took the time to mull over this, thank you, apologies :)
 

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