Why aren't drones and aircraft using hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells?

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I've heard they were much more efficient then li-ion batteries and anything else really.. and drones today are all about flight time, wouldn't hydrogen fuel cells result in a great flight time advantage? why are they not in use?
 
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Too low energy density. Expensive storage systems. Expensive fuel. Expensive motor.
 
Most of the power on aircraft today comes from the engines. The batteries are used as emergency backup in case of a failure, which means that the batteries efficiency are not a major cause of flight time reduction
 
Doug Huffman said:
Too low energy density. Expensive storage systems. Expensive fuel. Expensive motor.

The motor is an electric motor, they are the same as for normal li-ion batteries.

Energy density of hydrogen gas is yes, large which I must admit, having a gas tank for hydrogen in a drone would certainly make things more expensive I admit.
donpacino said:
Most of the power on aircraft today comes from the engines. The batteries are used as emergency backup in case of a failure, which means that the batteries efficiency are not a major cause of flight time reduction

I am not meaning conventional aircraft but electric aircraft as in drones that use electric motors. Hydrogen fuel cells generate electricity from hydrogen and oxygen
 
Jarfi said:
I am not meaning conventional aircraft but electric aircraft as in drones that use electric motors. Hydrogen fuel cells generate electricity from hydrogen and oxygen

Wow I am a dummy.
Shows how you can get locked into one idea!
 
Jarfi said:
I've heard they were much more efficient then li-ion batteries and anything else really.. and drones today are all about flight time, wouldn't hydrogen fuel cells result in a great flight time advantage? why are they not in use?

A picture of the last aircraft which used hydrogen in a big way (but not for power):

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The Hindenburg​
 
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Jarfi said:
Energy density of hydrogen gas is yes, large which I must admit, having a gas tank for hydrogen in a drone would certainly make things more expensive I admit.
Energy density of hydrogen gas compared to Li-Ion batteries is very low
the batteries give you the "best bang for buck"

Dave
 
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davenn said:
Energy density of hydrogen gas compared to Li-Ion batteries is very low
the batteries give you the "best bang for buck"

Dave

Yup, Lithium batteries aren't too shabby.. especially the high end ones have mad energy density; http://eu.nkon.nl/rechargeable/18650-size/r-panasonic-ncr18650b-button-top.html this is just mindblowing..

Anyways yeah you guys are right, hydrogen fuel cells are complex and spacey... which is exactly the opposite of what a drone needs, drones have to be as light and neat as possible. It's probably more of a thing for cars, I think a number of electric cars actually this tech
 
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