Why Believe in Something Better Than Nature?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between belief in the supernatural and the understanding of nature. One participant argues that a deep confrontation with the raw forces of nature—such as tornadoes, tsunamis, earthquakes, and the extremes of space—reveals nature's indifference and potential destructiveness, prompting a belief in something greater than the natural world. This belief is framed not as a religious stance but as a response to humanity's vulnerability and imagination, suggesting that there may be alternatives to the harsh realities of survival. Another participant challenges this view, questioning the validity of the supernatural when there is a lack of understanding of the natural world, suggesting that belief in the supernatural may stem from fear rather than a true comprehension of nature. The conversation highlights the tension between accepting nature as it is and seeking meaning beyond it.
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Somewhere in this area of the forum , someone asked why do you have to believe in the super-natural -- why not just accept nature.
That person has never had to confront Nature in it's precise form -
never been in a Tornado , swept out to sea in a Tsunami -- never buried in an earthquake -- never experienced the 'cold' of space -- the frying heat of the naked sun --- never been alone spinnining at 1rev per millisec in the depths of space -- Nature ? IT will squash you in a micrsec why would you so easilly make it your friend -- you think it cares about you?
WE believe in something BETTER than this --- because we are puny and not in control -- and in this sense super natural means -- above the Nature we see.
This is not a matter of religion -- it comes from living in trees and caves , being food for other animals in a literal life and death competition to survive
except that we are blessed (or cursed ) with imagination and can see that this carnage -- is but one way -- maybe there is better.
From our view Naturally.
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UHHHHH? How can one propose the "Super-Natural" when one does not even understand the "Natural"? It seems quite "naturally" that it is a "super-fluous" conjecture based on fantasy and makes a great sales pitch that appeals to our fear of "nature"!
 
I did not quite say that -- I said transcends the nature that we see -- I put no limits on nature per se. Ray.
 
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