Why Delta PE is Negative Work: Understanding the Relationship and Derivation

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The discussion revolves around understanding the relationship between potential energy and work, specifically how a change in potential energy can be expressed as negative work. It highlights that while a general proof may not be feasible, the work-energy theorem provides a clear framework for deriving this relationship. The equation mgy(b) + KE(b) = mgy(a) + KE(a) is used to demonstrate that the change in potential energy (ΔU) equals negative work (ΔU = -W). The conversation also touches on the derivation of the work-energy theorem itself, emphasizing its foundational role in connecting kinetic energy and work done. Overall, the proof presented is deemed correct within the context of the discussion.
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Can someone prove that the change in potential energy is negative work.
I have a very basic understanding of the concept. I do not understand where it is derived from.
 
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Unfortunately you can't prove that in the general case. For gravity it's easy. What you can prove is that work done=1/2*m*v^2= kinetic energy, and from conservation of energy (dE/dt=0) you can derive the remaining stuff.
 
Thanks that helps.!
 
So the proof would be...

mgy(b)+KE(b)=mgy(a)+KE(a)

That is: U(b)+K(b)=U(a)+K(a)
So U(b)-U(a)=K(a)-K(b)=-(K(b)-K(a)
So U(b)-U(a)=-W ( By work energy theorem )
Therefore:

ΔU=-W

Is this proof correct?
 
CrazyNeutrino said:
So the proof would be...

mgy(b)+KE(b)=mgy(a)+KE(a)

That is: U(b)+K(b)=U(a)+K(a)
So U(b)-U(a)=K(a)-K(b)=-(K(b)-K(a)
So U(b)-U(a)=-W ( By work energy theorem )
Therefore:

ΔU=-W

Is this proof correct?

Yeah it's ok. But another important question is wheather you know where work energy theorem comes from?
 
Yeah.
W= ∫from a to b of Fdx
=∫from a to b of madx
=∫from va to vb of mdv/dt vdt. (dx/dt =v so dx =vdt)
=∫from va to vb of mvdv
=1/2mv^2 evaluated at va and vb
= 1/2mvb^2-1/2mva^2
=KEb-KEa
Therefore
W=KEb-KEa
 
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