Why Did Americans Elect Bush as Their President?

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The discussion centers around the reasons behind the election of George W. Bush as President of the United States, exploring perceptions of intelligence, political systems, and public opinion. Participants engage in a debate about the implications of Bush's presidency, the electoral process, and the broader context of American democracy.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that the perception of Bush as "dumb" is unfounded and that intelligence is not a prerequisite for election, suggesting that campaign management plays a significant role.
  • Others assert that the American political system allows for the election of leaders who may not be the most intelligent, and that public perception can be influenced by media portrayal.
  • A few participants express that the electoral process is flawed, allowing leaders to act contrary to public interest after being elected.
  • Concerns are raised about the consequences of Bush's policies, particularly regarding foreign affairs and military actions, with some attributing terrorism to U.S. foreign policy decisions.
  • There is a discussion about the complexity of American society and how it can lead to poor electoral choices, with references to historical context and public sentiment.
  • Some participants emphasize the right of the American electorate to vote out leaders they disapprove of, while others question the legitimacy of the electoral process itself.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no clear consensus on the intelligence of Bush, the effectiveness of the electoral process, or the implications of his presidency. Disagreement persists regarding the characterization of American voters and the motivations behind their choices.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various assumptions about intelligence, media influence, and the nature of democracy without resolving these complexities. The discussion reflects diverse perspectives on the political landscape and the factors influencing electoral outcomes.

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Readers interested in political science, electoral behavior, and the dynamics of public opinion may find this discussion relevant.

  • #61
Ever since the Trade Center Massacre, I have been trying to avoid this very conclusion, that Muslims place no value on human life. And now a Muslim is telling me that it is correct!
Wow. I have the same dilemna. Even after reading it I still won't accept it. I have too much faith in the human species. Maybe they are just confused or brainwashed?
i am prety sure he is referring to their own lives, in the sense that good Muslim is not afraid of death.
How can a person who doesn't even value his OWN life place any value on the life of others?
 
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  • #62
Originally posted by russ_watters
How can a person who doesn't even value his OWN life place any value on the life of others?

you have to give up being self-centered for a start.
 
  • #63
you have to give up being self-centered for a start.
Ok, so only non-humans can be muslims? Sorry, but the PRIMARY instinct of all humans is selfishness.
 
  • #64
This topic is almost as dumb as George W. Bush.

He is not nearly as dumb as that post Rage
 
  • #65
One Muslim does not speak for all Muslims. I'm sure many of my fellow Americans are glad one American (say me for instance) does not speak for all Americans.

I think I speak for all Americans when I say this. :wink:

Njorl
 
  • #66
Hehe tricky one there Njorl
 
  • #67
Before jumping to any conclusions, I went to one of my own dead topics and tried to change the Title. I thought I had succeded, the title changed in the window I was viewing, but when I went back the next day, the topic still had the old title. (Just so nobody thinks Zargawee is diliberately keeping this offensive title after saying he had changed it).

Fess up now, people...I can't be the only one who went and tried this, right? But for those who haven't tried to do it yourself, I just thought the results should be stated here in public view.
 
  • #68
i assumed as much but thanks for the validation LURCH.
 
  • #69
anti-Zargawee not anti-Iraq

You know... Zargawee is a genuine @sshole.

I'm not even including this thread. Hell, I know I don't support the war... let alone any war. I'm talking about his complete disrespect for women.

He has made it clear on several occasions that he views women as being inferior to men. He has made comments alluding to the fact that he considers women who have premarital sex to be whores.

This is not an uncommon view for Muslim men to have. Many of them violently control their women, and give them no freedom to make their own choices. In America, we call that a violation of civil rights.

Let's ask him a few questions, directly:

1) Zargawee, if you were in love with a woman, and you asked her to marry you, but later you found out she was not a virgin, would you dump her?

2) Zargawee, if you were in love with a woman, and you asked her to marry you, but later you found out she had been raped, would you dump her?

3) Zargawee, if you were in love with a woman, and you asked her to marry you, but later you had premarital sex with her, would you dump her?

4) If you broke off a relationship because of questions 1, 2 or 3, would you resort to violence?

5) Do you feel that if you broke off a relationship because of questions 1, 2 or 3, your responsive actions would be justified by your god?

Don't take this the wrong way. I'm not saying we should bomb Muslims because they are insecure with themselves and their small members. I don't think we should bomb them at all. I just wanted to point out the fact that whether or not he meant to offend us by posting that we Americans are collective morons, Zargawee is still an @sshole.

eNtRopY
 
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  • #70
OUCH!

That was sort of like the Third Mechanized Division just rolled into this thread.



(Alias makes mental note to self: Play nice with the ladies!)
 

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