Why Do Different Methods of Loading Affect Spring Calculations?

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This discussion focuses on the mechanics of springs, specifically the calculations involved in determining displacement when a mass is applied. The key equation used is Hooke's Law, represented as -kx = mg, where k is the spring constant (20 N/cm) and mg is the gravitational force (mass multiplied by 9.8 m/s²). The conversation highlights the differences in potential energy calculations based on how the mass is applied to the spring, emphasizing that potential energy (PE) is derived from the negative integral of force. The confusion arises from the different methods of loading the spring, affecting the calculations for displacement.

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can someone explain to me how springs work?
I already know the equation of elastic pe= 1/2kx^2 but I need more explanation!
how come when a mass is dropped from a hanging spring I can multiply the mass by 9.8m/s^2 to get the force, then divide the answer by the spring's constant (20n/cm) then divide by two and get the right answer every time but when it is gently let down, I get the right answer without dividing by two and how come these methods do not work when the spring is on the ground and the mass is being dropped from a height?
 
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Your making me confused! I think you should try expressing yourslef more clearly, and people will be better equipted to help you!

Ok, for the P.E. I do not know how in-depth you go into this stuff. PE = -INT(F), that is, the potential energy is ALWAYS the negative integral of the force. Since the force for a spring is -kx, it is apparent where the PE equation comes from. We expect it to be positive all the time, because for all displacements (stretching of the spring) it must have a positive potential, as it stands to gain kinetic energy. Also note for x=o the potential is zeo, as we expect.

I think you want to find the displacement of a mass hanging on a spring. Well, first note that there are two forces acting on the mass. Gravitational force acting down, and th spring acting upwards. Therefore:
-kx = mg

mg is the force due to gravity, and -kx the force due to the spring. We equate them because when the block comes to rest, the forces must be equal.

Solving for x:
x = -mg/k

The negative sign just tells us it is displaced downwards.
I don't know what else you want.
 

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