Why Do Gravitational Waves Occur?

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The discussion centers on the question of why gravitational waves (GWs) are produced, exploring the underlying mechanisms and theoretical frameworks that govern this phenomenon. Participants delve into the relationship between mass movement, acceleration, and the generation of gravitational radiation, touching on concepts from general relativity and comparisons to electromagnetic radiation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Geoff expresses confusion about the production of gravitational waves and questions whether it is due to energy loss or the movement of mass through spacetime.
  • One participant states that gravitational radiation is produced when masses accelerate according to Einstein's field equations, suggesting that this is a fundamental aspect rather than a question of "why."
  • Another participant explains the relationship between the Einstein tensor and the energy-momentum tensor, indicating that changes in matter distribution lead to perturbations in the metric that satisfy a wave equation.
  • A further reply emphasizes that the wave equation derived from the Einstein equations has a source term dependent on changes in matter distribution, similar to electromagnetic waves.
  • One participant draws a parallel between gravitational and electromagnetic radiation, noting that both involve changes in fields that propagate at finite speeds.
  • Another contributor clarifies that gravitational waves are produced by accelerating masses, not just moving masses, and discusses the implications of relative motion and the propagation of gravitational effects.
  • This participant also distinguishes between logical explanations and underlying physical mechanisms, suggesting that the propagation of gravitational effects must occur as waves to avoid superluminal information transfer.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of agreement on the mechanisms of gravitational wave production, with some emphasizing the role of acceleration and others questioning the philosophical implications of the underlying equations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the deeper "why" behind these phenomena.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the topic, including the dependence on definitions and the assumptions made in the derivations of wave equations. There is also an indication that the discussion touches on philosophical questions that may not have definitive answers.

Mistake Not...
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I know GWs are produced by moving masses, but I can't find an explanation as to why it happens.

A system would lose energy to gravitational radiation. Does the radiation get produced spontaneously, or would it be because the mass has to move through space-time which holds it back somewhat (this is the only reason I can think of that would make it lose energy)?

My question might be slightly confusing, but in essence: Why is gravitational radiation produced?

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Geoff
 
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Mistake Not... said:
Why is gravitational radiation produced?

The physical answer to the question would be: "Because this is what happens when masses accelerate according to Einstein's field equations."

You may go further and ask "Why do Einstein's field equations look as they do?", but that is a philosophical question rather than a physical one.

Compare to the generation of electromagnetic radiation, it is produced based on the acceleration of charges and this is described by Maxwell's equations. There is no underlying "why", it is simply how Maxwell's equations work.
 
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The Einstein equations tells you that the Einstein Tensor (G_{\mu \nu}) is proportional to the energy-momentum tensor T_{\mu \nu}:
G_{\mu \nu} \equiv R_{\mu \nu} - \frac{1}{2} g_{\mu \nu} \mathcal{R} = \alpha T_{\mu \nu}

If now you are in a large distance from a static matter distribution you will live in a metric g_{\mu \nu}
However if there are some changes in the matter distribution (that is in the T_{\mu \nu}) then your metric is also going to be changed to g':
g_{\mu \nu}^\prime = g_{\mu \nu} + h_{\mu \nu}
With h playing the role of a perturbation due to matter distribution changes.
Now if you input that metric g', in the Einstein equations (and making some assumptions like that h is small), you are going to reach the result that h sattisfies a wave equation.
 
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ChrisVer said:
Now if you input that metric g', in the Einstein equations (and making some assumptions like that h is small), you are going to reach the result that h sattisfies a wave equation.
It should be pointed out that this wave equation has a source term which will be dependent on the changes in the matter distribution, just as there will be a source term in the electromagnetic wave equation which depends on the changes in the charge distribution.
 
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Mistake Not... said:
Why is gravitational radiation produced?
As Orodruin suggested, you should try to understand why accelerated charges produce EM waves. It's basically because changes in the EM-field propagate at a finite speed. There are many resources on this, for example:
http://www.tapir.caltech.edu/~teviet/Waves/empulse.html

Changes in gravitational fields also propagate at a finite speed, so you have a similar effect.
 
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Mistake Not... said:
I know GWs are produced by moving masses, but I can't find an explanation as to why it happens.

Gravitational waves are not just produced because a mass is moving. You need a mass that is accelerating (and the acceleration has to be at a varying rate).

Mistake Not... said:
A system would lose energy to gravitational radiation. Does the radiation get produced spontaneously, or would it be because the mass has to move through space-time which holds it back somewhat (this is the only reason I can think of that would make it lose energy)?

Objects don't move through spacetime. Objects move through space.

It doesn't make sense to imagine a physical effect arising because an object is moving through space. Motion is relative, so a frame of reference always exists in which the object is at rest (at a given moment in time).

Mistake Not... said:
My question might be slightly confusing, but in essence: Why is gravitational radiation produced?

Your "why" question could be interpreted as asking (1) for a logical explanation of why such an effect must occur, or (2) for an underlying physical mechanism. As others have pointed out, we don't know of any answer to #2. Re #1, here's a simple argument. Special relativity says that information can't propagate at speeds greater than c. General relativity is a different deal, but roughly speaking we would expect the same restriction to apply. If I could wiggle the Earth and *instantaneously* produce a gravitational effect on the moon, I'd be propagating information at a speed greater than c. Therefore there must be a time lag for gravitational effects to propagate, which must mean that the effects propagate as waves.
 
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