Why do mass, time and length change at a rate determined by Gamma?

In summary: There is a simple explanation for time dilation, mass increases, and length contracts. However, it is not clear what the explanation is for mass increases and length contracts.
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Dappy
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In the commonly used light clock concept, where a photon bounces back and forth between 2 mirrors, it is easy to see how gamma works. Gamma is simply the factor of increase in the distance that the photon has to travel between mirrors. We can fully comprehend why time slows down at the rate that it doe's for the light clock.

Are there any known explanations as to why gamma can be used to determine the rate of change in time generally, mass and length in the direction of motion?

Real things happen in real ways. Simply knowing a rate of change is not enough. Surely the next questions should be "Why do things change at this rate"? And "What does this tell us about what is really going on at the most fundamental level of physical reality"?
 
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When Lorentz and Fitzgerald wrote down the Lorentz contraction, and when Lorentz created the Lorentz transformation, they asked themselves these same questions. Then a man named Einstein answered those questions. The known explanation is Special Relativity.
 
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Because of the principle of relativity all clocks must slow in the same proportion, or else we'd be able to compare the time reading on one clock to that of another and be able calculate some velocity attributed to that time difference. Thus if you capculate the time dilation factor for a light clock, you have also done so for every other possible clock, including biological processes like how long you live, etc.

If you know how to work out the time dilation formula, figuring out length contration from there should benpretty straightforward. Figuring out the relativistic mass formula might be a bit trickier - most derivations I've seen involve analyzing collisions and conservation of momentum.
 
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In the light clock example it is possible to imagine in a very physical way exactly why the clock experiences time dilation. It should be possible to imagine in a very physical way exactly how and why mass increases or length contracts. Simply knowing that the 3 formulas work is not enough.
Forgive me, but to my knowledge The Special Theory does not answer these questions. Concerning mass increases the nearest Einstein got to explaining what was going on, was to say that there seemed to be a spherical aspect to mass. Ambiguous to say the least.
I do not argue that these formulas work, but merely ask how they work.
 
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The known explanation is Special Relativity.

That's among the best detail you'll get.

"Why" questions are almost impossible to answer in physics: Why does the electron have the mass we observe? Why do we observe four different "forces"? Why did the universe
originate in a big bang? Why is the speed of light the only constant??...

Maybe if you read about the history and insights of Lorentz and Fitzgerald you'll gain some
insights from what they were thinking:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz-FitzGerald_contraction#History

Notice: "conjecture" ..that is, an informed guess, rather than a logical sequence of thoughts emanating from first principles.
 
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Dappy said:
In the light clock example it is possible to imagine in a very physical way exactly why the clock experiences time dilation. It should be possible to imagine in a very physical way exactly how and why mass increases or length contracts. Simply knowing that the 3 formulas work is not enough.
Forgive me, but to my knowledge The Special Theory does not answer these questions.
It does. In fact, those are not three separate formulas, but all come from one formula in SR.

The "very physical explanation" is Maxwells equations, which are invariant under the Lorentz transform. Given those you can see that between any pair of frames in which Maxwells equations hold time must dilate and length must contract.

Btw, the modern usage is that mass is invariant and does not change. The concept of relativistic mass is the same as total energy, just in different units.
 
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Btw, the modern usage is that mass is invariant and does not change. The concept of relativistic mass is the same as total energy, just in different units.[/QUOTE]

Does this mean that the relativistic mass always remains the same as the rest mass?

Is this statement true?
The formula (m = m0 / √1-(v/c) squared) predicts that it would be impossible to speed anything with mass up to the speed c. The formula predicts that the mass of a body upon reaching the speed c would be infinite, this would take an infinite amount of energy to achieve. An impossible feat.

When we look at how a light clock experiences time dilation, we can see that the formula
√1-(v/c) squared, is nothing more than Pythagoras Theorem being applied to the distance ratio of 1 to (v/c), where 1 is the distance that the photon travels in relation to the distance of (v/c) traveled by the clock in its direction of motion.

There must be a simple explanation to explain what happens to mass and length.
 
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Dappy said:
Does this mean that the relativistic mass always remains the same as the rest mass?
No, it means that relativistic mass is a redundant and deprecated concept.

Dappy said:
Is this statement true?
The formula (m = m0 / √1-(v/c) squared) predicts that it would be impossible to speed anything with mass up to the speed c. The formula predicts that the mass of a body upon reaching the speed c would be infinite, this would take an infinite amount of energy to achieve. An impossible feat.
Yes, but since the point is that it takes an infinite amount of energy it is more clear to simply call the left hand side "total energy" rather than "relativistic mass". Then, it is clear that the energy becomes infinite as v->c. In typical units where c=1 there is no important distinction between the two.

Dappy said:
When we look at how a light clock experiences time dilation, we can see that the formula
√1-(v/c) squared, is nothing more than Pythagoras Theorem being applied to the distance ratio of 1 to (v/c), where 1 is the distance that the photon travels in relation to the distance of (v/c) traveled by the clock in its direction of motion.

There must be a simple explanation to explain what happens to mass and length.
Forget mass. Length contraction comes from the Lorentz transform, just like time dilation. They are two parts of the same thing, which is why it is not surprising that the same factor shows up in both. I already said this above, did you not see my answer?
 
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I believe in the equivalence of mass and energy, and you put up a good argument. Einstein equated that from the fact that he took all these equations into consideration, that certain laws of conservation fall apart. From this aspect Einstein then went on to suggest mass and energy equivalence. Proof is probably the wrong word, and should be the lack of falsification. I am probably one of Einstein's greatest supporters, but it has been over a hundred years since we've heard all this, and there is so much more to come. For within the question of why doe's matter, length and time all follow principles that are so simple, there is a simple answer.
 
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Dappy said:
Einstein equated that from the fact that he took all these equations into consideration, that certain laws of conservation fall apart.
I think you are misunderstanding your textbook. Do you have a source or a quote that leads you to say this?

Dappy said:
For within the question of why doe's matter, length and time all follow principles that are so simple, there is a simple answer.
Yes, the Lorentz transform, or equivalently the Minkowski metric. SR answers this question clearly and simply, as you have been told repeatedly.
 

1. Why do mass, time, and length change at a rate determined by Gamma?

The change in mass, time, and length is a result of the theory of relativity. According to this theory, the observed measurements of these quantities are relative to the observer's frame of reference. This means that as an object's velocity increases, its mass, time, and length will appear to change from the perspective of a stationary observer.

2. How does Gamma affect mass, time, and length?

Gamma, also known as the Lorentz factor, is a mathematical factor that describes the relationship between an object's measured values in its own frame of reference and those observed by a stationary observer. This factor accounts for the changes in mass, time, and length that occur as an object's velocity increases.

3. Is Gamma constant for all objects?

No, Gamma is not constant for all objects. It depends on the object's velocity relative to the observer and can vary from object to object. As an object's velocity approaches the speed of light, Gamma approaches infinity, resulting in significant changes in mass, time, and length.

4. How does the theory of relativity explain the changes in mass, time, and length?

The theory of relativity states that the observed measurements of mass, time, and length are relative to the observer's frame of reference. As an object's velocity increases, it experiences time dilation (time appears to slow down) and length contraction (length appears to shorten). These changes in measurements are described by the Lorentz factor, or Gamma.

5. Can we observe the changes in mass, time, and length predicted by Gamma?

Yes, we can observe these changes in certain situations. For example, the effects of time dilation are observed in high-speed particle accelerators, where particles are accelerated to velocities close to the speed of light. We can also observe the effects of length contraction in objects moving at high velocities, such as airplanes and satellites. These observations provide evidence for the theory of relativity and the role of Gamma in describing the changes in mass, time, and length.

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