Why Do We Conflate Particle Physics with Theoretical Physics?

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The discussion centers on the public's tendency to conflate theoretical particle physics with theoretical physics as a whole, often overlooking other significant fields like condensed matter, astrophysics, and biophysics. Participants express frustration that the general public primarily recognizes theoretical particle physics and high-energy physics while remaining largely unaware of experimental condensed matter physics, which is the largest field in physics. There is a consensus that the public's understanding of physics is limited, often associating it with sensational topics like black holes and dark matter, rather than the diverse range of research areas. The conversation highlights the challenge of communicating the complexity and variety within physics to a lay audience, noting that many people do not see physicists as having different specializations. The discussion suggests that this conflation may stem from a lack of necessity for the average person to differentiate between the various branches of physics.
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The question I have is why do the general public often conflate theoretical particle physics (or, to a somewhat lesser extent, mathematical physics) with theoretical physics in general?

I knew that theoretical particle physics juggled with fundamental physical questions, but it irks me since I knew that there were theoretical research questions in condensed matter, astrophysics, biophysics and so on, so forth.
 
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That hasn't been my experience.

I do see laypeople thinking all physicists do theory. The biggest field is experimental condensed matter physics -- and most people have never heard of that.
 
I agree with lisab. Most of the general public seems oblivious to physics. Nuclear physics is often equated with nuclear weapons. The rest of the field, particularly particle or high energy physics, and astrophysics seems beyond comprehension. There are certainly folks who pick up some sensational stories of black holes, wormholes, gamma ray bursts, dark matter/energy, . . . . through various pop sci channels. But the physics seems generally beyond comprehension.

I don't think condensed matter registers.
 
Astronuc said:
I don't think condensed matter registers.
The only condensed matter physics the general public cares about is a discovery that might help them charge their cell phones.
 
lisab said:
That hasn't been my experience.

I do see laypeople thinking all physicists do theory. The biggest field is experimental condensed matter physics -- and most people have never heard of that.

Perhaps we are just not dealing with the same general public... the public I am dealing with seems to accept that there are experimentalists, but even experimentalists seem to perform experiments that are impossibly arcane to the eyes of the general public.
 
I also agree that it seems the general public mostly think of physicists as just one profession.

So in my city, there's been a lot of talk about building a new accelerator and neutron source facility. Even though I'm working with quantum information, which is a completely different subject, approximately 100% of my family and relatives that have talked to me about it, have asked if I will be able to work at the new facilities. They just really don't think about different physics as different types of jobs.
 
Catria said:
The question I have is why do the general public often conflate theoretical particle physics (or, to a somewhat lesser extent, mathematical physics) with theoretical physics in general?

I knew that theoretical particle physics juggled with fundamental physical questions, but it irks me since I knew that there were theoretical research questions in condensed matter, astrophysics, biophysics and so on, so forth.

Why would the average person need to know the difference? They don't. And why should they?

I could give you a lengthly screed about advanced topics and different techniques in Software development that you would probably be clueless about...as this isn't your area of expertise. But why should that irk me?
 
Catria said:
The question I have is why do the general public often conflate theoretical particle physics (or, to a somewhat lesser extent, mathematical physics) with theoretical physics in general?

I knew that theoretical particle physics juggled with fundamental physical questions, but it irks me since I knew that there were theoretical research questions in condensed matter, astrophysics, biophysics and so on, so forth.

Read this:

https://www.physicsforums.com/blog.php?b=3727

It is not a new misconception.

Zz.
 
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