Why Does αn+1 Include an Extra Factor in the Denominator?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the behavior of a sequence defined by a ratio test, specifically focusing on the terms in the denominator of the sequence as it progresses from \( a_n \) to \( a_{n+1} \). The subject area includes sequences and series in calculus.

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  • Participants explore the transition from \( a_n \) to \( a_{n+1} \), questioning how the denominator evolves and why certain factors appear. There is confusion regarding the inclusion of the term \( (2n-1) \) in the expression for \( a_{n+1} \) and whether simply substituting \( n \) with \( n+1 \) would suffice.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing uncertainty about the correct interpretation of the terms in the sequence. Some guidance has been offered regarding the structure of the denominator, but there remains a lack of consensus on the reasoning behind the additional factor.

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Participants reference a specific form of the sequence \( a_n = \frac{x^n}{1 \cdot 3 \cdot 5 \cdots (2n - 1)} \), which may impose constraints on how the terms are manipulated. There is also mention of homework guidelines that participants are expected to follow.

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Below is a screen shot of a solution to a problem. The part I don't fathom is after the ratio test is applied to the denominator. How can, noting that an+1, (2n-1) become (2n-1)(2n+1) and not just (2(n+1)-1)=2n+1?

Thank you in advance
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shanepitts said:
Below is a screen shot of a solution to a problem. The part I don't fathom is after the ratio test is applied to the denominator. How can, noting that an+1, (2n-1) become (2n-1)(2n+1) and not just (2(n+1)-1)=2n+1?

Thank you in advance
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In an, the denominator is the product ##1 \cdot 3 \cdot 5 \cdot \dots \cdot (2n - 1)##. What will be the next factor in the denominator for an + 1?

BTW, when you post a question here, please don't delete the three parts of the homework template.
 
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Mark44 said:
In an, the denominator is the product ##1 \cdot 3 \cdot 5 \cdot \dots \cdot (2n - 1)##. What will be the next factor in the denominator for an + 1?

BTW, when you post a question here, please don't delete the three parts of the homework template.

Thanks for the quick reply

Asked in that manner, the next part is 2n+1. But why not just replace the n with (n+1)? And why would the answer be completely different if this approach to problem is taken?
 
shanepitts said:
Thanks for the quick reply

Asked in that manner, the next part is 2n+1. But why not just replace the n with (n+1)? And why would the answer be completely different if this approach to problem is taken?
It wouldn't. If you replace n by n + 1 in the expression 2n - 1, what do you get?
 
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Mark44 said:
It wouldn't. If you replace n by n + 1 in the expression 2n - 1, what do you get?

You get 2n+1 instead of the (2n-1)(2n+1), no?
 
shanepitts said:
You get 2n+1 instead of the (2n-1)(2n+1), no?
You get (2n + 1). The (2n - 1) factor is the one from an.
 
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Mark44 said:
You get (2n + 1). The (2n - 1) factor is the one from an.

Thanks,
I'm sorry but I still don't fathom.

Let's say

αn=2n-1 then αn+1 should equal 2(n+1)-1=2n+1

Why the extra 2n-1 in the αn+1?
 
shanepitts said:
Thanks,
I'm sorry but I still don't fathom.

Let's say

αn=2n-1 then αn+1 should equal 2(n+1)-1=2n+1
This is not an, at least as it's defined in post 1.

$$a_n = \frac{x^n}{1 \cdot 3 \cdot 5 \cdot \dots \cdot (2n - 1)}$$

Now, what is an + 1?
You need to ask yourself how many factors are in the denominator of an? How many are in the denominator of an + 1?
shanepitts said:
Why the extra 2n-1 in the αn+1?
 
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