Why Does My Method for Calculating Spring Compression Yield a Different Result?

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The discussion centers on a momentum problem involving a railway engine and carriage colliding with a buffer spring. The user initially calculated the maximum compression of the spring using a method that yielded a different result than the provided solution. The correct approach involves calculating kinetic energy and recognizing that the average force derived from momentum change does not account for maximum force. Additionally, the user’s use of kinematic equations was flawed due to the non-uniform acceleration during the collision. Ultimately, the user acknowledges the errors in their method and thanks others for their assistance.
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Hi,

I have just tried a momentum question involving springs. I got the wrong answer and the method used in the solution is different, but i still do not see what i did wrong.

The question is: a railway engine 6.2*10^4 and a carriage 4*10^4 have coupled. They have hit a buffer spring (to stop them) from an initial speed of 0.15m/s. Assuming the buffer behaves like a spring of stiffness 320kN/m calculate the maximum compressiion of the spring.

The solution given is:

Kinetic energy of train :

0.5 × 10.2 × 104 × 0.152 = 1150 J

0.5* F e
= 0.5× (k e) × e = 0.5 × k e^2
0.5 × 320 × 103 e2 = 1150 1
gives compression e = 8.47 × 10^-2 m

My Solution
F=Change in MV/Change in time F= Ke

so:

MV/T = Ke


s= ((u+v)/2)t Therefore : t=(40/3)e

so Mv= 40/3(Ke^2)

And i calculate e=0.059 m

But this is different to the solution given, why does my method not work?

Thanks
 
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ojsimon said:
My Solution
F=Change in MV/Change in time F= Ke

so:

MV/T = Ke
Δ(MV)/Δt would give you the average force, not the maximum force.


s= ((u+v)/2)t Therefore : t=(40/3)e
The acceleration is not uniform, thus that kinematic formula will not apply.
 
Ok thank you very much for you assistance.
 
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