Why does my TV turn on by itself sometimes?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of a television turning on by itself, exploring potential causes such as electromagnetic interference, remote sensor activation, and electrical spikes. Participants share personal experiences and technical insights related to this issue.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that their TV occasionally attempts to turn on during lightning storms, suggesting that the remote sensor may be triggered by similar frequencies.
  • Another participant mentions a specific incident where a passing streetcar may have caused the TV to react, proposing that an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) could be responsible.
  • A different participant questions the feasibility of an IR signal passing through walls, indicating that typical TV sensors should not be able to detect such signals unless exceptionally strong.
  • One participant argues that the issue may stem from a spike in the IR detector circuit rather than the IR signal itself, citing the lack of separate grounding in older TVs as a potential vulnerability.
  • Another participant suggests that the phenomenon could be related to a mains spike or a loose wire acting as an antenna, rather than an EMP.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the cause of the TV turning on by itself, with some attributing it to electromagnetic interference and others suggesting electrical spikes or grounding issues. No consensus is reached on the exact mechanism behind the phenomenon.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various technical aspects, such as the age of the TV and its remote technology, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the nature of electromagnetic interference and the specifics of the electrical environment.

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I just found out why the TV in my bedroom will very occasionally spontaneously try to turn itself on. I've experienced this before, during a lightning storm. A good close hit will sometimes cause the TV to try to come to life (it's twenty years old and makes a loud piercing twang upon turning on). There's no mystery that it's coming to life because remote sensor is being triggered by the same frequency as the remote. (The TV doesn't actually turn on, it just goes through the motions of doing so. It will also do this if you don't properly press the button, or double-press it.)

Last night, though there was no lightning storm, it tried to come on spontaneously anyway. It's done this before. This time I was able to identify the cause: a passing streetcar. My bedroom window is about 50 yards down a sidestreet from the main streetcar line in our Toronto satellite town. The spark from the cable must have sent out a sort of EMP, including the freq used by my TV remote.


Funny thing though, while the TV is now 20 years old, I presume it still operates on an IR signal. How could an IR signal pass through my walls? Or could it be strong enough to bounce in my window through a 90 degree angle?


Oh yeah, the cordless phone also tried to come to life.
 
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That reminds me of the movie: "The Ring".
 
IR imaging devices can see through walls, but a TV sensor can't (unless it's one bloody powerful burst). Anyhow, that's not something that one would expect from a tram. Also, I assume that the Transit Authority has RF emission rules that prevent radio interference, the same as any other consumer situation. That aside, though, a remote control uses a coded pulse sequence, not just a flash of light.
A 20-year-old TV pretty certainly uses IR for the remote; the old ones were ultrasonic, with a different pitch of tuning fork for each function. When you push a button, a little hammer hits the appropriate fork and an accoustic sensor in the TV detects it. I've never heard of a radio-control for that.
I think that you're just haunted.
 
It's not the IR that is turning it on - it is spike in the IR detector circuit.
For some reason I never understood TVs tend not to be separately grounded (once got a nasty shock off a metal screen inside one) so they are sensitive to any ground spikes.
 
mgb_phys said:
It's not the IR that is turning it on - it is spike in the IR detector circuit.
That makes more sense.

So, it really is an EMP then? Much like from a nuclear bomb, writ small.
 
Possibly if there is a loose wire or unterminated track acting as an antenna, but more likely to be a mains spike.
 
mgb_phys said:
Possibly if there is a loose wire or unterminated track acting as an antenna, but more likely to be a mains spike.
Oh, you mean through my household wiring?
 

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