Why Doesn't the Left Ring React in Birch Reduction?

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The discussion centers on the Birch Reduction process and why the left ring does not react due to the presence of a -CN group, which has an electron-withdrawing effect. Participants explore the role of resonance structures and the donation of an electron from a sodium atom, concluding that the right ring, influenced by -CN, is more likely to accept the electron. There is a suggestion that to reduce the left ring, one would need a different reagent that does not donate electrons initially. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding electronic distribution and the effects of substituents on reactivity in aromatic compounds. Ultimately, the participants agree that replacing -CN with a donor group could facilitate the desired reaction.
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I thought the answer should be this:
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But in the answer key, its something else. In the answer key, it is:
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I don't understand why the left ring doesn't react.
 
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What does -CN do?

HINT: Try making resonating structures involving -CN.
 
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AGNuke said:
What does -CN do?

It has an electron withdrawing effect.
 
AGNuke said:
HINT: Try making resonating structures involving -CN.

How will that help me here?
 
What's the first step of Birch Reduction? Donation of electron from Sodium Atom. If my memory serves right, I think those carbon atoms which suffers from shortage of electrons will be able to accept that electron, in this case, the ring attached to -CN group.

I said to try making the resonating structures to get yourself the idea of effective electronic distribution in the compound.

For your sake, this question I solved it via Mechanism. Reality is I didn't know Birch Reduction, or any reduction for God's sake. I was only able to attempt this question because I saw its Mechanism afterward.

Sodium atom is donating an electron, so try getting that electron accepted where -CN can exhibit its -M effect.
 
AGNuke said:
What's the first step of Birch Reduction? Donation of electron from Sodium Atom. If my memory serves right, I think those carbon atoms which suffers from shortage of electrons will be able to accept that electron, in this case, the ring attached to -CN group.

I said to try making the resonating structures to get yourself the idea of effective electronic distribution in the compound.

For your sake, this question I solved it via Mechanism. Reality is I didn't know Birch Reduction, or any reduction for God's sake. I was only able to attempt this question because I saw its Mechanism afterward.

Sodium atom is donating an electron, so try getting that electron accepted where -CN can exhibit its -M effect.

Okay, i get it, you mean that the electron would stay in the right ring most of the times during resonance and that's why the right ring reacts. Thanks! :smile:

But what if i deliberately wanted to reduce the left ring? Which reagent should i be using?
 
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Err... I meant the right ring is in electron debt due to -CN and that's why the lone electron from Sodium atom will be accepted by atoms bossed by -CN.

And another thing, you don't destroy aromaticity completely, especially when you are getting Benzene if you are given some workaround, in this case, electron withdrawing group.

Like I said, I don't know about Reduction. If I have to guess, then the reducing agent must be the one which do not donate the electron in the first step and has the capability to reduce alkenes.
 
AGNuke said:
Err... I meant the right ring is in electron debt due to -CN and that's why the lone electron from Sodium atom will be accepted by atoms bossed by -CN.
Sorry, i meant the same, i don't know what made me to write that. :redface:

I think i need to find the answer on my own for my self made question. :smile:
 
To the second question, I don't think there's a reducing agent capable of doing so. If you want to make the second compound, replace the -CN with donor group and re-replace it.
 
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AGNuke said:
To the second question, I don't think there's a reducing agent capable of doing so. If you want to make the second compound, replace the -CN with donor group and re-replace it.

Yes, that should do the trick, thanks! :smile:
 

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