Why is it that in general geodesics are paths of stationary character

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In general relativity, geodesics are paths of "stationary character" because they represent an extremum, meaning the functional derivative is zero, which can indicate either a minimum or maximum. The discussion clarifies that when differentiating in equation 11.16, the entire combination dxm/ds is treated as a variable, rather than differentiating dxm/ds itself. This approach allows for proper application of calculus in the context of the equations presented. The original poster expresses relief at gaining clarity on the topic. Overall, the conversation revolves around understanding the mathematical treatment of geodesics in general relativity.
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Well since the denizens of the relativity forum don't like me, I thought I might ask here see if I get better replies.1) Why is it that in general geodesics are paths of "stationary character" rather than minimum?

2) http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3280/math30016nx.jpg

I can't quite follow equation 11.16. Specifically how they differentiate dxm/ds in the denominator.
Shouldn't be necessary, but for reference, the following page is http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/6488/math30024mk.jpg" .
 
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Thrice said:
Well since the denizens of the relativity forum don't like me, I though I might ask here see if I get better replies.
They have been mean?

1) Why is it that in general geodesics are paths of "stationary character" rather than minimum?
They impose that it's an extremum (functional derivative is zero) so it could be either a min or a max.

2) http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3280/math30016nx.jpg

I can't quite follow equation 11.16. Specifically how they differentiate dxm/ds in the denominator.
Shouldn't be necessary, but for reference, the following page is http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/6488/math30024mk.jpg" .

They do not differentiate dxm/ds..they differentiate with respect to dxm/ds. You must treat the *entire* combination dxm/ds as your variable and differentiate with respect to it (So, calling the variable x, L is essentially {\sqrt{ g_{kn} x^k x^n}}).

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No they weren't mean. They just gave me the silent treatment.

Thanks. It's a lot clearer now.
 
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