Why is my D.C. ammeter reading fluctuating?

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The discussion centers around the fluctuations observed on a D.C. ammeter reading, with participants exploring potential causes and troubleshooting methods. The context includes experimental setups involving current measurement, particularly in relation to a basic current balance experiment.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the specific circuit and conditions under which the ammeter is being used, suggesting that the setup details are crucial for diagnosing the issue.
  • There are suggestions that fluctuations could be due to variations in the power supply or external magnetic fields affecting the measurement.
  • One participant proposes checking the stability of the current by measuring it through a resistor connected to a steady power supply.
  • Another participant mentions the possibility of the ammeter acting as a magnetometer, picking up variations in the Earth's magnetic field.
  • Some participants emphasize the need for clearer information about the experimental setup, including the scale of fluctuations and the specific components involved.
  • There is a suggestion to troubleshoot by isolating components, such as removing the current balance from the circuit to see if fluctuations persist.
  • One participant discusses the iterative nature of troubleshooting, suggesting a methodical approach to identify the source of fluctuations, including switching off electronic devices to observe changes in current stability.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various hypotheses regarding the cause of the fluctuations, with no consensus reached on a single explanation. Multiple competing views remain regarding the potential sources of the issue.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include a lack of specific details about the circuit configuration, the type of ammeter used, and the exact nature of the fluctuations. The discussion also highlights the dependence on external factors such as power supply stability and environmental magnetic fields.

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Why is the reading on my D.C. ammeter fluctuating? As in the needle won't maintain at one spot, it'll sway left and right. Also, how do i ensure that the fluctuations are minimized?
 
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Are you looking at a motor? Or is this with nothing being measured?
 
What scale, how much current, how much fluctuation, what kind of meter. Have you cleaned the contacts.

Read the current through a resistor from a power supply that does not fluctuate. If it reads steady, the the answer to your question is obvious. The current is varying.
If it fluctuates with the fixed current, I don't know what to say other than clean the contacts.
 
Ng Sio Hong said:
Why is the reading on my D.C. ammeter fluctuating?

What is the circuit?
 
meBigGuy said:
If it fluctuates with the fixed current, I don't know what to say other than clean the contacts.
Call Ghost Busters! :rolleyes:

Or perhaps check for a nearby magnetic field. Assuming it's an old style magnetic deflection meter, a varying magnetic field could cause that.

How come I can never find a ghost? :headbang:
 
Ng Sio Hong said:
Why is the reading on my D.C. ammeter fluctuating? As in the needle won't maintain at one spot, it'll sway left and right. Also, how do i ensure that the fluctuations are minimized?

this question is so vague that in its present format, cannot be answered

Try asking again with a much better posed question telling us all about how you are trying to measure current and in what circuit
a sharp and well lit photo or 2 wouldn't hurt for us to see what you are doingDave
 
davenn said:
this question is so vague that in its present format, cannot be answered

Try asking again with a much better posed question telling us all about how you are trying to measure current and in what circuit
a sharp and well lit photo or 2 wouldn't hurt for us to see what you are doingDave
Hi Dave!

First of all, apologies for not making my statement a little bit more clearer. The experiment that I'm currently doing is measuring magnetic force with a basic current balance where the current is supposed to always stay at a constant 0.4 A. The thing is, it always fluctuate and I do not know why. Here is the set up:
 

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oh OK, so this is related to your other thread ? ...

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/errors-in-basic-current-balance-experiment.822864/

if so, you probably should have keep it all together and saved the confusion

so how much is the current fluctuating ?

some things I could think of that would cause fluctuations

1) variations in the power supply ... that is ... it isn't stable enough for what you are trying to do
2) its acting as a magnetometer and picking up variations in the Earth's magnetic field ... of which there's been a few over the last week or so
3) other sources of magnetic fields near your gear are causing problems with the setupcan I see a better pic of that "Basic current balance " section

cheers
Dave
 
Does it fluctuate if you remove the "basic current balance" part from the circuit and just use rheostat and your amperemeter?
How much does it fluctuate, and on which timescale?
 
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so many good thoughts thus far.
Troubleshooting is an iterative process wherein one tries to draw a circle around the problem then tighten that circle like a noose.

Binary search is usually the quickest but it's not always convenient to cut a system exactly in half.. we look for convenient ways to partition the system under study.
You have two active electronic devices in your setup, both employ feedback so theoretically both are capable of control system instability.
So i'd ask - do my fluctuations stem from my active or my passive devices?
Without changing anything, i'd switch off the electronic scale. If that settles current , it's very interesting. If it doesn't settle current, well , you've eliminated half your active devices., quaternary search ?
 

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