Why is Rope Distance Not Part of the Equation?

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The discussion centers on the mathematical treatment of rope and pump problems in physics, specifically regarding the role of distance in work calculations. In the rope problem, the integral represents the weight of the rope without explicitly including distance, as the work done is calculated based on the height from which the rope is lifted. Conversely, in pump problems, distance is integral to the equation, as it directly affects the work done in lifting water. The key distinction lies in how the variables are defined and the physical context of each problem.

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This is not really a homework problem but just a question.

How come while doing pump problems distance is part of the equation but rope problems distance is not...


For example your rope integral might look like integral from zero to fifty of (25-(.5)x) dx

Here all that 25-(.5)x is the weight of the rope...


But a pump integral may look like the integral from zero to three of ((8x)(9.8)(1000)(5-x))dx

Here (5-x) represents the distance the water travels...


How come there is nothing that represents the distance the rope travels in the rope problem?
 
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If the actual questions to the examples I gave would make my question more understandable I can write them out, but I figured it was probably not necessary.
 
If you are talking about the work required to lift a rope that is hanging down up to the point from which it is hanging, and x represents the height of a point on the rope then the "piece" of rope is lifted L- x where L is the length of the rope. If, instead, x is the distance from the point on the rope to the point where it is hanging, the distance is x.
 

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