Why is sodium potassium pump required?

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The discussion centers on the role of the sodium-potassium pump (Na+/K+ pump) in cellular function, particularly regarding osmotic balance, membrane potential, and the implications of ion transport in cells. Participants explore the necessity of the pump in maintaining cell volume and electrical properties, as well as the underlying mechanisms and components involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the Na+/K+ pump is essential for maintaining osmotic balance and preventing cell swelling, while others challenge this view, suggesting that chloride transport may also play a role in cell volume regulation.
  • There is a discussion about the negative charge within cells, with some attributing it to proteins and nucleic acids, while others emphasize that cells are overall electrically neutral due to the balance of positive and negative ions.
  • One participant questions the understanding of how Na+ and K+ ions interact with the negative charge inside the cell and whether the pumping of Na+ out is necessary to prevent cell bursting.
  • Another point raised is that the membrane potential in nerve cells is primarily influenced by K+ diffusion, with the Na+/K+ pump being important for maintaining this gradient rather than directly creating the potential.
  • It is noted that even in the absence of active Na+/K+ pumps, neurons can still fire numerous times, indicating some resilience in their function.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the primary functions of the Na+/K+ pump, the nature of cellular charge, and the mechanisms of membrane potential generation. No consensus is reached on these points, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on specific definitions of charge balance and the roles of various ions and proteins, which may not be universally agreed upon. The discussion also highlights the complexity of ion transport mechanisms and their interdependencies.

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Ok I searched and found this as the answer from a previous topic

"The sodium potassium pump is required to maintain osmotic balance and stabilize the cells volume. If you treat an animal cell with ouabain, which inhibits the Na+/K+ pump, it will swell and often burst.

Cells contain mostly negatively charged organic molecules, so they require cations for a counter charge balance: K+. This will create a large osmotic gradients, that would pull water into the cell, so it will pump out Na+.

The pump is also able to generate membrane potential in nerve cells because of its electrogenic effect, but 90% of the membrane potential depends indirectly on the Na+/K+ pump."

Questions I have

1. Why do cells mostly contain negative charge. If this is due to proteins. What are the proteins inside cells.
2. So my understanding is that K+ and Na+ try to neutralize the negative charge inside the cell. To reduce the solute concentration Na+ is sent out or else the cell would burst. I think this is wrong. Can someone please explain this to me.
3. For nerve cells what membrane potential do they need. Do they want the inside of the cell to be negative.

Thank you very much :smile:
 
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I disagree with the first sentence: "The sodium potassium pump is required to maintain osmotic balance and stabilize the cells volume. If you treat an animal cell with ouabain, which inhibits the Na+/K+ pump, it will swell and often burst."

NaKATPase is the cell's battery- it charges up the membrane and maintains the membrane potential. IIRC, chloride transport is used to maintain cell volume, or alternatively, chloride channels are osmosensors.

Cells are electrically neutral, like most matter. Proteins do indeed carry excess negative charge, but the majority of inorganic ions are positive- sodium and potassium. Cells have an excess of potassium inside, the intracellular milieu has an excess of sodium.
 
Nucleic acids (DNA & RNA) are another component of the cell that is highly negatively charged.
 
sodium is poisonous to cells so they pump it out. then they pump potassium into balance the change and osmotic pressure.

even if the sodium/potassium pumps are inactive neurons can fire hundreds of thousands of times.
 
hi !

the NaK ATPase is required to maintain gradient of Na and K that are connected to function of plethor of transporter, in fact, many transporter use Na gradient as energy source (active secondary transport).

The membrane potential is mostly due to K+ diffusion across the membrane, so ATPase is important for maintain of this potential but not directly (except for few cell type).

The effect that there are a membrane potential don't mean thaht the cell is charged, globally, the matter is electroneutral. The membrane potential is the consequence of a ion conductance difference (differential membrane permeability) and the phenomenon is so important as a very small charge asymmetry through the membrane is needed to make a diffusion potential.
 

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