Why is the Gaussian function easier to integrate using polar coordinates?

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the Gaussian function and the advantages of using polar coordinates for this purpose. Participants explore the convergence of the integral and the relationship to the error function.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of substituting variables in integrals and the transformation from one-dimensional to two-dimensional integrals. There is a focus on understanding why polar coordinates may simplify the integration process.

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Some participants have offered insights into the nature of the error function and the convergence of the Gaussian integral. Others have clarified the use of variable substitution and the benefits of switching to polar coordinates, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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Looking at equations 17 and 18, I don't see how that follows. If you substitute infinity for x you're going to get infinity divided by some real number which is infinity
 
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Hey g.lemaitre.

The first result is not intuitive and it is based on what is calle the error function or erf(x). The function does converge because e^(-x) when x gets really large goes quickly to 0.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Error_function

For the second one, you need to use a substitution of u = x^2. If you have done a year of calculus, this should be straight-forward.
 
g.lemaitre said:
Looking at equations 17 and 18, I don't see how that follows. If you substitute infinity for x you're going to get infinity divided by some real number which is infinity

e^{- \infty}=0

chiro said:
Hey g.lemaitre.

The first result is not intuitive and it is based on what is called the error function or erf(x). The function does converge because e^(-x) when x gets really large goes quickly to 0.

There is no need for the error function when evaluating the first integral, just use the fact that \int_{ - \infty }^{ \infty } f(x)dx = \int_{ - \infty }^{ \infty } f(y)dy to calculate the square of the integral, by switching to polar coordinates.
 
Do you mean ydx and xdy instead of f(x)dx f(y)dy? Sorry to nitpick but changing x to y is change a dummy variable change rather than a variable description change.
 
chiro said:
Do you mean ydx and xdy instead of f(x)dx f(y)dy? Sorry to nitpick but changing x to y is change a dummy variable change rather than a variable description change.

The whole point is to exploit a change of the "dummy" integration variable, to transform the problem from one of finding a one-dimensional integral, to one of finding a two-dimensional integral, as the latter turns out to be easier:

\left( \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f(x)dx \right)^2 = \left( \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f(x)dx \right)\left( \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f(y)dy \right) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f(x)f(y)dxdy

To see why it's easier, just switch to polar coordinates.
 
gabbagabbahey said:
The whole point is to exploit a change of the "dummy" integration variable, to transform the problem from one of finding a one-dimensional integral, to one of finding a two-dimensional integral, as the latter turns out to be easier:

\left( \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f(x)dx \right)^2 = \left( \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f(x)dx \right)\left( \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f(y)dy \right) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f(x)f(y)dxdy

To see why it's easier, just switch to polar coordinates.

That makes it a lot clearer. Thanks.
 

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