Why is the potential at the surface zero in this question....

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In the discussion, participants explore the concept of electrostatic potential in a dielectric sphere with uniform free charge density. The potential at the surface is assumed to be zero for calculation purposes, which raises questions about the implications of this assumption, particularly in relation to the potential at infinity. It is clarified that the reference point for potential can be chosen arbitrarily, meaning one can set it at the surface or at infinity, but consistency is key in calculations. The confusion arises from the need to reconcile the two different reference points if both are set to zero. Ultimately, understanding the choice of reference point is crucial for accurately calculating electrostatic potential.
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Homework Statement


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Consider an isotropic, homogenous dielectric sphere of radius R and constant relative permittivity ε, also permeated by a uniform free charge density ρ. Give an expression for the electrostatic potential V at the centre of the sphere by line integration of the electric field

Homework Equations


∫∫ D ⋅ dA = ∫∫∫ ρ dV

D = E εε0

The Attempt at a Solution



Using ∫∫ D ⋅ dA = ∫∫∫ ρ dV

D × 4πr2 = ρ 4 πr3 / 3

D = ρr / 3

Using D = E εε0

E = ρr / 3 εε0

My example answer states the following ' Assuming the potential at the surface is zero, and using a line integral to find potential V

V = - ∫ E ⋅ dl = ∫R0 ρr / 3 εε0 ⋅dr
Why is the potential the surface be zero? Also the potential at infinity is suppose to be zero so how can we also have zero at the surface

I know that a single charge has E =0 at the centre and it decreases radially out, but this question I am clueless
 
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JaneHall89 said:
Assuming the potential at the surface is zero,

i can not visualize the statement...pl. attach a copy of the exact page.

(one guess is there: assume R to be very large then one can take the potential to be vanishingly small and then can calculate the work done)

pl. you may take help of the following -page-23 of
http://web.mit.edu/8.02-esg/Spring03/www/8.02ch24we.pdf
 
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JaneHall89 said:
My example answer states the following ' Assuming the potential at the surface is zero, and using a line integral to find potential V

V = - ∫ E ⋅ dl = ∫R0 ρr / 3 εε0 ⋅dr

Why is the potential the surface be zero? Also the potential at infinity is suppose to be zero so how can we also have zero at the surface?
You can arbitrarily set the zero of potential anywhere you like. You can choose to set the zero to be at infinity or at the surface, but once you make a choice, you have to be consistent. If the potential is zero at the surface, it's not going to be zero at infinity.
 
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