Why is the Z vector Boson heavier then most quarks?

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The discussion revolves around the mass hierarchy of fundamental particles, specifically questioning why the Z boson is heavier than most quarks. Participants explore the implications of particle mass on their chronological appearance in the universe, touching on concepts from cosmology and particle physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that if the rest mass energy of particles can be used to determine their order of appearance in the universe, then more massive particles like the T quark would have been 'born' before lighter particles like the electron.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the relationship between a particle's rest mass and its chronological appearance, questioning whether higher energy photons could create heavier particles like the Top quark at earlier times in the universe.
  • A different participant notes the mystery of why the Z, W, and Top quark are significantly heavier than other quarks, mentioning the Yukawa coupling related to the Top quark's mass.
  • One participant references a biannual review on cosmology for further reading, indicating a lack of deep familiarity with the topic but suggesting it may provide useful context.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the relationship between particle mass and their appearance in the universe, with no consensus reached on whether mass dictates the order of particle creation.

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Some assumptions about the relationship between mass and chronological appearance remain unresolved, and the discussion does not clarify the specific mechanisms of particle creation from photons at different energy densities.

Chaos' lil bro Order
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Hey,


If we use the Friedman Equation form to find time(excpected) for a given particle's Rest Mass energy as our input value, does it mean that the most energetic particles were 'born' first and the lighter particles 'born' later on in time in a linear, sequential order?

eg. T quark (174Gev)---->Z Boson(~90GeV)----->W Boson(~80GeV)---->B Quark(5GeV)------>Tau(~1777MeV)-----Proton(~938MeV)----->Electron(0.511MeV)------>etc...

Does the order of their Rest Mass energies mean they were 'born' in that order too?

Thanks, I'm very puzzled about this.
 
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Nobody knows, You get Z and W from Fermi constant plus the electroweak couplings. The puzzling thing to me is why is the Z, W, and Top quark so much heavier than the other quarks. Besides, there Top quark relates also naturally to Fermi constant in the sense that the Yukawa coupling giving mass to this quark is exactly unity, a misterously casual thing.
 
hold on rivero

Does a particle's rest mass dictate when it appeared in the Universe?

ie. electron and positron production occurred at times before the average photon's kT>1MeV

So does that mean that earlier on in time photons with kT>348GeV (174GeV x 2) were creating Top Quark/ anti-Top Quark pairs? Can we generalize that all particles are created from photons at various stages in the Universe's Energy densities?

I found your last answer useful, but it wasn't completely satisfying.
 
Chaos' lil bro Order said:
Does a particle's rest mass dictate when it appeared in the Universe?

There is a biannual review about cosmology, you can check it and references therein. I am not very conversant in this area. Enjoy.
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0601514
 

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