Why is there no general rule for integrating the product of two functions?

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the product of two functions, specifically questioning why there is no general rule akin to the product rule in differentiation. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the absence of a straightforward integration rule for products, contrasting it with the established differentiation rules.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between differentiation and integration, with some suggesting that integration by parts serves as a method for integrating products. Others question the applicability of this method and seek clarification on how to approach the integration of products directly.

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The discussion includes various interpretations of integration by parts, with some participants providing examples to illustrate the method. However, there remains a lack of consensus on the generality of the rule and its limitations, as well as the original poster's specific inquiry about integrating products directly.

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Participants note that integration by parts is not a completely general rule and that its effectiveness depends on the specific functions involved. The original poster emphasizes the need for clarity in integrating the product of two functions with respect to a variable.

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is there a general rule to integrate th eproduct of two functions? i aksed my prof and he said no gen rule exists. and i really wonder why... how come differentiation has a general formula for a derivative of a product of 2 functions while integrations doesnt
 
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Since differentiation and integration are in a way inverse processes, every rule for differentiation has corresponding rule for integration.
Just write down the product rule for differentiation and integrate both side of the equation. There's your very useful rule for integrating a product. It's called integration by parts.
 
lets take one of the parts of the equation. d(uv)/dx=u(dv/dx)+v(du/dx)
now, let's integrate: left part is easily uv, right part: how will u know how to integrate u(dv/dx).

another question: what I am asking about is how to INTEGRAE THE PRODUCT OF TWO FUNCTIONS WITH RESPECT TO X, not how to integrate the derivative of the product of 2 functions...
 
Yes, we understood that. Galileo gave you the answer: integration by parts! Go back and read what he said again.
 
Integration by parts works when you want to integrate something of the form u*dv/dx, where u is easily differentiated, and dv/dx and v*du/dx are easily integrated. So it's not a completely general rule, but it is very useful. You can repeat the process if v*du/dx isn't easily integrated as well.
 
That's probably really unclear, an example should help.

[tex]\int{u \frac{dv}{dx} dx} = u v - \int{v \frac{du}{dx} dx}[/tex]

I think you'd got there. Now try for example u=x, dv/dx = e^x:

[tex]\int{x e^{x} dx} = x e^{x} - \int{e^{x} 1 dx}[/tex]
[tex]\int{x e^{x} dx} = x e^{x} - e^{x} + C= e^{x}(x-1) + C[/tex]

And there's your answer. You can stick limits in too, they don't change. You have to evaluate uv at those limits too.
 

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