Why is this happening (trig subs)

  • Thread starter Thread starter frasifrasi
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the evaluation of the integral 1/(x*sqrt(t^2 - 1)), with a focus on trigonometric substitutions and the implications of changing variables during integration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the process of substitution, specifically using secant and tangent functions, and question how to properly evaluate the integral after substitution. There is also a focus on the need to change limits of integration and clarify which variable is being integrated.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the integral and addressing potential typographical errors. Some guidance has been provided regarding the need to clarify the variable of integration and the implications of the substitution.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of both x and t in the original integral, leading to confusion about the correct variable to integrate with respect to. Participants are also considering the requirements for changing limits of integration when using trigonometric substitutions.

frasifrasi
Messages
276
Reaction score
0
Dor the integral 1/x*sqrt(t^2 - 1)

After i do the substitutions, it comes out to be sec(x)tan(x)/sec(x)tan(x), so evertything cancels out and the integral evaluated is just x (or theta), but what do I sub theta for when evaluating the integral?

I know this is supposed to be arcsec, but I am not visualizing how I get to that point.

Thank you.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
two variables ... which variable are you integrating with respects to?
 
theta...

I guess I have to change the limits of integration.
 
yes, letting x= sec\theta

If i let sqrt(2) = sec\theta , I am looking for arcsec(sqrt(2)) , which is pi/ 4 since cos (pi/4) = 1/sqrt(2), so I would convert the limits. I gorgot that was required since we are mostly doing indefinite integrals.
 
frasifrasi said:
Dor the integral 1/x*sqrt(t^2 - 1)

After i do the substitutions, it comes out to be sec(x)tan(x)/sec(x)tan(x), so evertything cancels out and the integral evaluated is just x (or theta), but what do I sub theta for when evaluating the integral?
I know this is supposed to be arcsec, but I am not visualizing how I get to that point.
Thank you.

rocophysics said:
two variables ... which variable are you integrating with respects to?

frasifrasi said:
theta...
I guess I have to change the limits of integration.
No that wasn't the question- your original integral involves both x and t. Was that an typo? Did you mean dx/(x*sqrt(x^2-1)) or dt/(t*sqrt(t^2-1))?
 
was typo.
 

Similar threads

Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 22 ·
Replies
22
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
3K