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Why is this triangle not right? (sine -1 is bigger than 1)

  1. May 17, 2016 #1
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    the black triangle is given, and red triangle is me trying to work it out
    why is my trangle wrong? and what is the right triangle?
    someone is sliding down a slope, with 2ms-2 of acceleration (not actually given which direction, maybe i'm wrong there, but the person is acelerating at 2ms-2 down the slope)

    why is my triangle wrong? can some one please draw me a right triangle.....
    i can't believe i'm stuck on this....
     
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  3. May 17, 2016 #2

    SammyS

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    What do the vectors represent?

    How should they be related to each other?

    What is the problem you're trying to solve?
     
  4. May 17, 2016 #3

    Charles Link

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    Try ## \sin \theta=2/9.81 ##. (Your second triangle is incorrect).
     
  5. May 17, 2016 #4
    yes, i know that'd be the right answer

    but why have i got it wrong? thankyou
     
  6. May 17, 2016 #5

    Charles Link

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    The downward gravitational force is ## F_g=mg ##. This can be broken into two components, one parallel to the plane and one perpendicular. The perpendicular component gets cancelled by the force the plane exerts on the object. All acceleration is along the plane. You should be able to figure out the remaining part.
     
  7. May 17, 2016 #6

    ehild

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    The 90° angle is opposite to the side of length 9.81. It is the hypotenuse of the yellow right triangle. In your drawing, the right triangle is opposite the shorter side. In every triangle, a side opposite to a smaller angle is shorter than a side opposite to a greater angle. If one angle is 90° in a triangle, the other angles must be smaller, as the sum of the angles can not exceed 180°. So the side opposite to a right angle is the longest side of the triangle.

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  8. May 17, 2016 #7

    Ray Vickson

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    Your red triangle is an impossible geometric figure: it is a right-triangle with a hypotenuse of 2 but a side of 9.81! Every right-triangle has a hypotenuse as large as each side (and strictly larger than both if it has not collapsed down to a straight-line segment).
     
  9. May 18, 2016 #8

    SammyS

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    @1832vin ,

    Did you check to see what a calculator gives you for ##\ \sin^{-1}(4.9) \ ?##
     
  10. May 18, 2016 #9

    SteamKing

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    The Pythagorean relation is central to understanding right triangles and the trig functions derived from them.

    You should have this diagram memorized:


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    This should avoid making silly mistakes like the triangle you drew originally. :smile:
     
  11. May 18, 2016 #10

    haruspex

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    Your black triangle shows three vectors as blue arrows. The red triangle you obtain from that should have sides parallel to those three vectors. You have one parallel to the vertical blue arrow and one parallel to the downslope blue arrow, but your third is horizontal instead of normal to the slope.
     
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