Why is volume rated at 0 decibels?

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The discussion revolves around the volume rating system in audio equipment, specifically why 0 decibels is used as a reference point and how it relates to sound levels and amplification. Participants explore the implications of this rating in terms of audio engineering and human perception of sound.

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  • Some participants suggest that the use of a logarithmic scale for decibels aligns with the logarithmic nature of human hearing.
  • Others argue that the -70 dB level does not represent silence but rather a very quiet sound, with the actual quietness depending on various factors like amplifier power and speaker sensitivity.
  • A participant notes that different audio receivers may display volume levels differently, with some starting at 0 dB and moving to positive values, indicating potential variations in how signal strength is measured.
  • One participant proposes that 0 dB represents the maximum amplification level without distortion, while higher dB values indicate attenuation of the signal.
  • There is a suggestion that the scale could be represented in various ways, and the actual numbers may be less important than personal preference in sound adjustment.

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Participants express differing views on the significance of the 0 dB level and how it relates to sound perception and amplification. There is no consensus on the reasons behind the volume rating system, and multiple competing explanations are presented.

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Some claims depend on specific definitions of sound power levels and the characteristics of different audio equipment, which may not be universally applicable.

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I got a Denon stereo receiver in this past year and I noticed that the volume meter starts at something like -70 decibels and moves up through 0 decibels. I've also noticed on other audio equipment that the 0 decibel rating is linked to some kind of amplifier power level or something. Why is the volume rating like this?
 
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Because engineers want to feel unique by complicating things. Its all relative.
 
Because our hearing is roughly logarithmic, not linear. It therefore makes sense to use a logarithmic scale, it also why the potentiometer inside the amp is logarithmic.
Moreover, dB is usually easier to use than a linear scale since you can just add/subtract the numbers when you e.g. want to calculate sound pressure levels..
-70 dB simply means that the potentiometer is attenuating the output signal by 70 dB.

Hence, there are plenty of good reasons:smile:
 
Yea, that's pretty much what I figured, but I don't understand why -70 dB corresponds to silence. Why is it "attenuating the output signal by 70 dB"? Is there something significant about the 0 dB level in this setting?
 
0 dB on a linear scale is 1 (10^0=1), i.e. attenuating a signal by 0 dB is the same thing as dividing it by 1.

Edit: And -70 dB is not silence, it is just very quiet. HOW quiet depends on the power of your amp, the sensitivity of you speakers (rated in dB/Watt) and how far away you are.
 
I think I've seen it the other way round on some receivers, going from 0dB up through positive numbers. Maybe different receivers spec signal strength at different stages - some after the final amplification stage and some before?

If I recall correctly , the textbook definition of sound power levels (albeit, the high school definition) sets the 0 at the threshold of hearing (Intensity around 10^-12 W/m^2).
 
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It actually makes a little sense. At 0 dB, the receiver is outputting the maximum amplification that it can put out without distorting the signal. You then attenuate the signal since that's easier to do without distortion.

If you're going from 0 dB to 70 dB, then 0 dB presumably means no amplification on the final stage, while 70 means maximum amplification (without distorting the signal?).

Of course, regardless of what they're actually doing, they could just as easily put anything on the scale: 0 to 10 (with 10 being loudest); 0 to 17 (with 17 being loudest); they could describe it in words (quiet, medium, loud, really loud, etc). You're going to adjust the volume to whatever sounds best regardless of the scale they use.
 
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