Why smaller particles come together

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The discussion centers on the formation of protons and neutrons after the Big Bang, questioning why these particles came together before electrons. It highlights that protons and neutrons are bound by the strong nuclear force, which is significantly stronger than the electromagnetic force that binds electrons to protons. The conversation also touches on the limitations of current knowledge regarding the fundamental forces and the conditions necessary for particle stability. While binding energies provide some insights, the underlying reasons for the forces at play remain largely unexplained. Ultimately, the complexities of particle interactions and the origins of charge are acknowledged as areas still requiring further research and understanding.
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--- >> a question…… it is said that a few seconds after the big bang , the subatomic particles gradually lost energy and came together…….then why the protons and neutrons came together first and not the electrons ?……….. i thought ,this is possibly due to their greater mass….. but further dividing them , they are also made up of smaller units…… why these smaller units came came together…….. the main question is why the smallest particles came together and turned to the form they are in now…… obviously at very very high energy of that time they could exist individually………then what were the forces that caused them to come together……. ?

……………….. as far as the forces on small particles are concerned they are short range and with enough energy in them why would they settle... and if those forces came to bind them .. then where such forces arose from..
 
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Read Steven Weinberg's "The First Three Minutes".
 
A Dhingra said:
then why the protons and neutrons came together first and not the electrons ?

Protons and neutrons attract each other with the strong nuclear force, whereas electrons only attract to protons with electromagnetism. The strong nuclear force is stronger than EM, so the temperature you need to cause nuclei to fall apart is much higher. To heat things enough so that nuclei fall apart, you need tens of millions of degrees, whereas atoms will fall part with a few thousand.

……………….. as far as the forces on small particles are concerned they are short range and with enough energy in them why would they settle... and if those forces came to bind them .. then where such forces arose from..

Why the forces are what they are is a much more difficult question, and it's something that isn't fully understood. For things like nuclear fusion, you really don't need to understand why to see what happens since you can just heat up a reactor and see what happens.

For much, much hotter temperatures beyond current experiments, you need to start understand the reasons why things are what they are, and at that point you hit the limits of our current knowledge.
 
Binding energies. We have experimental evidence that tells us how much energy it takes to tear neutrons, etal, apart. We infer from this particles are unstable at these energy levels. We extrapolate backwards to the point in time conditions [temperature] were sufficient to preclude them from forming and remaining stable.
 
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if i combine the property of possession of charge with the size of the mass...
is there any regular patter between them...

and what is charge actually and where does it come from...
as far as i have studied in my books , charges can be separated by polarization ... so what should be the smallest point of charge ... and what kind of mass it should posses...

here wat should be the force that holds the charge together...
 
anyone...
 
The physics necessary to answer your question are unknown. It lays at energy levels that are not yet experimentally accesible.
 
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